Why is it that film and television nowadays...

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  1. SWfan

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    Relies so heavily on disrespect towards the human condition? I'm tired of mean-spirited shit like Family Guy and Moral Orel getting passed-off as "comedy".
    Whatever happened to wholesome entertainment?
     
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    >nowadays
    >implying you had "good ole days" to look back on
    >you're 18

    stop sucking the dick of everything that came out before you were born, you hipster sack of shit
     
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    Moral degeneracy, and what not. People are into being the cutting edge, and DARKNESSSSS, not really that hard to understand.
    1383835149337.
     
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    Yeah what happened to those old fashion values on which we used to rely?
     
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    I only watch television for a few shows..... and no they're not comedy.
     
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    The old shows were censored...they had strict guidelines to follow. Have you ever watched old 1920 cartoons? They're full of racism and sexism...and funny as hell. But...people got offended. So, they started to monitor what could be made or not.

    "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die."
    Mel Brooks

    "There is a thin line that separates laughter and pain, comedy and tragedy, humor and hurt."
    Erma Bombeck

    "Most comedy is based on getting a laugh at somebody else's expense. And I find that that's just a form of bullying in a major way. So I want to be an example that you can be funny and be kind, and make people laugh without hurting somebody else's feelings."
    Ellen DeGeneres

    "Why do we laugh at such terrible things? Because comedy is often the sarcastic realization of inescapable tragedy."
    Bryant H. McGill

    There are ways of having funny shows without hurting feelings, like Ellen said, but there in the end:

    For comedy to work...someone has to suffer. Look at "Who's on first?"

     
  7. SWfan

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    I'm not a hipster, you fucking asinine moron. Unlike you, I dress maturely and fittingly, I try to make sense and I am proud of who I am.
    If anything, you're the hipster.

    Amen, brother. TV comedy sucks ass. I use internetz for that.
     
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    oh man... i forgot we were having this discussion...
    >implying hipster is a style of dress and not a way of thinking where you assume everything you think and do is better because you shun mainstream ideas
    you don't try to make sense... you leave shit like this on my profile:
    I'm right. Old movies and tv shows are a lot better. You cannot disagree.
    Today at 1:55 PM

    with nothing backing up your claim. i said it there and i'll say it here in a more elaborate way: not everything from every time period is going to be a gem. there was shit films and tv "back in the day" and there's shit films and tv now. nowadays there's more creative freedom for people to do what they want in media though. there's more story formulas to go off of and people are allowed to be more 3 dimensional (able to show sex/drugs/violence and all the repercussions that go along with it on screen for the characters to react to it)
    your claims are rendered useless for everybody but yourself and your shit opinions with the fact that tv stations are actually letting writers do what they want with their shows nowadays and give more control to the creators... vince gilligan had damn near COMPLETE control over the direction breaking bad took and he could've easily crapped himself out and continued it for the sake of making more money but he didn't... the story is complete where it ended and it was brilliant. meanwhile david lynch's twin peaks bombed when the station added more writers to come up with filler shit for the characters to do that had nothing to do with the main plot whatsoever (and then all we got after the second season was fire walk with me which gave no fucking closure whatsoever)

    point is, people are allowed more freedom to do what they want depending on who they work for these days and sometimes the audience will benefit from that (deadwood, rome, carnivale) or you'll get shit like twilight (and it's spinoffs and gayness). it's pretty easy to ignore the bad and take the good though if you're actually looking for it.
     
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    The only reason Family Guy and its bastard shows have kept going through the years is because of its rabid fanbase. Nobody likes Family Guy.

    @nobody Fuck you.
     
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    No, a potato with a comb-over and damn good taste in film.
    1. I try making sense more than you do.

    2. People aren't taking advantage of that creative freedom like they should be, though. That "sex/drugs/violence and all the repercussions that go along with it on screen for characters to react to it" has been used as filler many-a-time. Just look at The Walking Dead. Studios are now requiring TV shows to be filled with unsavory content.
    Granted, TV shows now have the ability to be more ballsy, but the restrictions placed on them back in the day made them more inventive.
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    You can't show people fucking-on screen now, unless it is heavily simulated and fake looking sex, and that still may earn you an NC-17.
     
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    1. no, you don't
    2. yes, they are... it's just that human beings are very unoriginal and tend to do/write/make the same things over and over. i remember watching a documentary a long time ago about ancient art and they were talking about how wall paintings of dragons were found in the same time period on different continents that had no way of travel between them at the time... because humans are unoriginal and find the idea of giant flying sky lizards to be super neato
    3. all fucking on-screen is fake looking... you've obviously never seen a porn actress pretending to look interested but not really enjoying herself
     
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    @minty you're a hipster and
    @SWfan you're in love with a redneck furry

    there, dispute resolved. have a nice day
     
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    why so butthurt? is it because you're both unfunny shit gobbling faggots that I made you cry at sleep?
     
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    Nudity shouldn't serve as a substitute for good acting.
     
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    @Equivamp hates rednecks.
    You couldn't make a baby cry.
     
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    Such faggotry.





















































































































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    >2013
    >Still watching the idiot box
    You're behind bro, bigtime
     
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    That's a pity. It's a beautiful state filled with innocence and truth.
     
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    People typically hate the things that are most like themselves, particularly young people.

    Do you have any examples of this "wholesome entertainment?"
     
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    I'm so out of the loop on everything. Half the time I don't even know about a show until it's about to get cancelled. I don't give a shit how good things are compared to how good things were. I live in a timeless vacuum of repeats, where everything is comfortably familiar and not much is ever new.