Why Iron Man 2 was bullshit

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  1. ExplosiveDiareah

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    He created a new material a new ELEMENT of some sort of metal, in his basement with an at home DIY particle accelerator.

    You cannot make a new element, you cannot, it doesn't work that way, do they think we are retarded or something? alchemists tried making new elements and turning lead into gold, but you can't
    it just doesn't work.
     
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    are you trolling or actually trying to rationalize comic book logic?
     
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    both.
     
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    very well then, the answer is i didnt watch iron man 2 because i am not a faggot.

    the first one was good about halfway through and then i lost interest and stopped watching.
     
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    Iron Man 2 wasen't a bad movie.
    But that thing there was real bullshit.
    especially since it's now a magic battery that lasts longer than Paladin and makes your mouth taste like coconut.

    I still like Iron Man better than Prometheus, also i found out that Prometheus will have 30 minutes of cut footage on DVD.
    are you looking forward to it too?
     
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    of course. it actually has 50 minutes unseen footage. 20 that will be integrated back into the film and 30 minutes cut footage. cant wait
     
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    I want it all integrated back in.
    i often find many cut scenes still should have been in movies that have cut footage.
    Because i really want to be Optimistic about a sequel to Prometheus with what i got in cinema made me feel the way i've felt towards videogames, like with sequels that threw away all the INTERESTING unanswered questions in the first installment and puts in standardized sequel bullshit instead.

    Still won't ever agree with what they changed the Pilot species into, but if they actually go somewhere with it besides ripping off the Forerunners from Halo then i will enjoy it anyway.
     
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    i dont think that was the same species as the space jockey from the original alien. i think those were clonese "made in it's image" hence the suits on humanoid bodies. probably super adapted humans.

    i think thats why the engineers at the beginning came in a flying saucer instead of a derelict-type ship and also why the engineer bodies were stacked up in the hallway.something big would have to do that.

    lets not forget the ridiculously tall ceilings that could easily fit a 20 ft creature.

    the last clue is the mural showing the ALIEN. so far noone but me has seen or mentioned this...

    theres a human and a jockey melding into the alien shape. its a fucking recipe. the engineers are only an ingredient.

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    as for the film "making sense".... its fucking sci-fi fantasy. if you dont have an imagination you should stay away from it. its never going to 'make sense with reality' by design.
     
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    Oh.... I NOTICED the mural, i was discussing it with a friend who pointed out that THAT was actually drawn by Giger for the movie.
    It was the first visual implication to me that the stone urns were containing some sort of proto alien creature.

    What do you think was with the saucer ship anyway?
    are you saying that the Pilot and the engineers are different species? i did hear that theory on Youtube, that the Engineers wear suits like the Space Jockey because they worship them.
    Kind of like the Covenant in Halo worshipping and aspiring to be like the Forerunners in their architecture and technology
     
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    yes exactly....
     
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    so.. is the saucer the native craft of the Engineers or the Space Jockey?
    Or did the Engineers start off with Saucers then end up adopting the Space Jockey dog poo ship?

    It would be interesting actually. not that you mention it, the Space Jockey in expanded media has been portrayed as a destroyer of worlds, LV 246 could have been the engineers homeworld or one of their "embassies" which originally Humanity was to meet them on in the spirit of kinship.
    But as history went on, the Space Jockeys conquered the Engineers homeworld and those that were not killed became part of the SJ's military, forced to turn their planet into a base for concocting weapons for the SJ's to annhilate the eco systems of future targets.
     
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    i think that the jockey towards the end was the defector working for the real jockeys and the first ones were the 'good guys' trying to do good in the universe.

    i suspect they are all clones or something... i dunno...

    i think the ship definitely looked a lot different from the later ships for a very important reason.
     
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    Which would explain why he was the sole survivor when everybody else died.

    Also the bodies outside the room with the urns, we saw them all running into the room in that holographic recording, as the door closed, but they aren't there instead they are elsewhere when Fifield and the biologist dude find them, i know there is a door in the back room, actually Weezus you have come up with a theory that fits the bill for everything.

    The reason why there was apparently a conflict there it wasen't an outbreak of the black goo, hence why there was nothing else there, they were possibly massacred by Space Jockeys and the defector.

    they better have explanations for all this and not just making it up as they go.

    The saucer reminded me of the ship from The Thing which the creature crashed on, the crew were not on board, it was assumed that the thing (which has no real form it's a virus) killed the crew.
     
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    i think thats what happened. the real space jockeys killed them.

    the strength it would take to pile the engineers up, the INTELLIGENCE and REASON to do it in the first place....

    obviously they didnt want to be tripping on bodies while they were trying to use the ship.
     
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    The bodies were in the giant boob mound, the ship was a fair distance away on foot but i get what you are saying.

    i hope that the sequel does not focus on another ship going out to find out what happened to the Prometheus, i hope we find out how David and Elizabeth's quest to find the real homeworld turns out.

    I have heard some bullshit theories, such as
    "Elizabeth is the Space Jockey in Alien, the hole is where she had to break out, we just thought it was an alien to deceive us"

    Which is garbage, for these reasons.
    1. it would mean there were xenomorph eggs on board the ship the whole time.
    2. crash landing if it wasen't an alien that killed the pilot then what?
    3. Elizabeth did not pilot the ship, we don't see it, but it's likely that David was interfacing with the ships computer directly (kind of like how Data interfaced with the Enterprise as a disembodied head plugged into a terminal)
    4. the abscence of their bodies
    Also Alien was not made with Prometheus in mind.

    I know that the signal coming from the ship was a warning which might be something she would do, but as we have concluded, the space jockey was in fact an elephantine alien, and what do you think of the actual pilot we see in Alien? do you think it was hostile or benign? the distress call was a warning, which kind of indicates a wish to prevent others from falling victim to it's cargo, in the novel ash talked about them being a benign race.
    what do you think?
     
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    the warning was because the ship was infected. the signal wasnt meant for humans and if shaw did it then why would they have to decode it from an alien language?

    story wise im not up to drawing parallels with the first film but i do have theories on how the ALIEN became silicon based.

    im pretty much convinced that David is going to be reconstructed with nanotechnology and biomachines in the sequel and him, being a silicon based life form, will host the first true biomechanical xenomorph.

    this would explain quite a few things, including why Ash got scared shitless and then malfunctioned.

    his AI is working on a modem signal that the alien creature is working on, hence why he tried to impregnate ripley with the magazine.

    watch that scene again with that in mind. look at how he looks at the porno right before he does it. its very deliberate.

    when the facehugger first pops out look at ash's face. it is absolute terror.

    they zoom in on him for a reason there.
     
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    Kind of interpretive with Ash.

    I mean he started malfunctioning after ripley shoved him banging him against the wall,
    and as for his look of terror alternate explanations.
    Acting.

    And Androids such as him being programmed to respond like and mimic human emotions.
    where did the modem thing come from? you saying his programming is sent to him? from a computer? which?
    Cal and Bishop were never affected in this way.
     
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    I know that cal had a modem which was burnt out, so that she couldn't be shut down and had a manual one which resembled a hole for a jack to go into to patch in.
     
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    those movies have absolutely nothing to do with the ridley scott films other than a somewhat similar looking alien.

    and ash was acting freaky long before ripley hit him.
     
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    Special order.
    Protect the Alien.
     
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    that has nothing to do with anything i was talking about aside for it implies a few other things.

    1 the company knew exactly what the aliens were
    2 ash knew exactly what the aliens were

    ash had an obsession with them, it seems.
     
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    Which was kind of explained in AVP movies.
    but you don't count them.
    So.
    Their standing orders may have been that the company wanted any alien life form found, likely or unlikely to be brought back to them for study and analysis, or whatever.
    I just have doubts that they thought of all this when making the first film.
    especially since they were just making a ripoff of Planet of the vampires and just adding an alien creature that genuinely horrified people which was to break up the quaint feeling people had towards sci fi horror before Alien (B Movies)
     
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    What did David say to the Engineer? the engineer paid attention to what Shaw said, and even seemed to have recognition of what she was saying.
    Then David said something, and the Engineer smiled holding his face then proceeded to pull his head off and kill scrotumface with Davids decapitated body.

    strange.
     
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    "This man needs life, can you help him?"

    or something equivalent to that. you can find all kind of answers about everything on the internet at this point. the film has been analyzed to death.
     
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    I hope we find out why David put that black liquid into the champagne
    hopefully we find out that his motives were not sinister.

    did you notice how despite being liquid it dropped off his finger like a booger without any need for shaking or scraping off just when he wanted it to.
    does he have some sort of static grip?
     
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    Look what we have here, another USI-induced retard in his basement trying to look tough by pointing out the obvious flaws in every single sci-fi comic superhero plot ever.
     
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    HEY,

    THATS MY SCHTICK.

    youre not my sock...
     
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    This thread just gave me the most sickening deja vu I've ever had.
     
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    thats because we already did this thread except the title was actually about prometheus the first time.