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Discussion in 'Music, Movies & Media' started by Baya Rae 4900, Jan 12, 2012.
Affordability is key.
What, to make fun of or conform to? The Finns are all alcoholic gunslinging euro-rednecks stereotype always cracked me up, especially since there is some truth to it.
What are you searching for? A power amp? A complete system? Nice loudspeakers?
All modern separate sources and amplifiers (with good specs) sounds exactly the same, the only two things that can really make a difference are loudspeakers and the listening room...spend the bulk of your money in those
Thanks for the info. Any particular brand you'd recommend?
Personally think this kind of thing is best done in the shop, go to a good dj / producers equipment shop with some of your music and try out some of theirs, if they're a decent shop they should let you test out bits and bobs.
I went analogue a while ago and love it, but i listen to vinyl.
For sources and amps, you'll not go wrong with any of those, not very expensive: NAD, Marantz, Denon, Arcam, Onkyo or Akai.
Maybe Pioneer and Yamaha too.
For loudspeakers, I'll recommend: B&W, Celestion, Tannoy, Quad, Castle, or Harbeth.
For some more money: Monitor Audio, Proac, ATC, Epos, Heybrook or Spendor are pretty good, althoug expensive.
(As you can see, I like most "british sound", easy on the ears...)
Another sensible option would be some of the semi-pro active monitors from Behringer
And another one still better is making your own speakers, it's not difficult at all, but you'd need some kind of workshop, working with wood it's messy. If you have any, and are somewhat competent with tools, go for it hands down, best q/p ratio ever
Making an active system with DIY speakers, an active x-over and a multichannel amp is the best option to achive a top class sound without getting bankrupt, but you truly need to take it as a hobby. For source, any PC with a decent sound card is fine, and very convenient ergonomics wise
My present system is something like that (have to finish that damn speakers, btw...):
All second-hand, or DIY, and it sounds pretty fine. Around 600 bucks, and any equivalent system of any brand would be in the 2K$ range at least.
The last advice: buy nice headphones. I like Senheiser, almost all of them are good.
Good advise, although don't expect any system to sound the same in the shop and in your house, room acustics makes an enormous difference
Turntables/arms/cartridgues deem to expend some money on them too, it pays
But going analogue only makes sense if you own a lot of rare or vintage vynils, the myth that analog sound is better than digital is...well, a myth
Any decent DVD/CD recording of a vynil is indistinguisable from the original. And that's fact, not opinion. I can talk about that shit for hours, don't wake even more the smartass...
I have tannoys, really like them, do you have a valve amp?
Still lots of good vinyl releases getting mastered properly these days, especially with the huge amount of reissues which are getting the remastering treatment. I often think vinyl sounds better, especially with a moving coil cartridge which i have yet to upgrade to, as i often use my decks for mixing.
Not sure if the vinyl vs digital debate will ever end.
How much are you looking to spend?
I can probably get what I need at Cash Converters. (Or just use my PC.) Apart from the speakers and amps. Which is what matters, right?
Not now, I got cured of the hi-end sickness long ago
Here, somme vaccine, lol
That's a good point, many new vinyls sound nice because they are marketed to discerning listeners who are ready to spend more money to get better mixes/sound...
But the same applies to audiophile CDs
I can't be cured.
I become more of a luddite with each year.
Plus after 17 years of buying records, changing over makes no sense, still feels different to me, especially on super heavy systems.
All amps with good s/n ratio, flat response and good I/O impedance characteristics, sound exactly the same
The best site about all this topics, if you are interested on the issue, is this, imo
Master Siegfried is the boss
(Btw, I got most of my toys on CC too, lol)
Plus, the vast majority of music i listen to isn't made on cd.
It sounds better
I can't tell the difference between digital and vinyl/tape. Apart from the vinyl/tape wearing out faster and more noticeably. Same with VHS. It's hard to believe people still sell these things, let alone use them. But if there's a demand then there's going to be a supply, I guess.
Na, that's not really true, you surely can tell the difference between a vinyl and a CD, only for the pops and clicks of vinyl.
With headphones, anybody can tell. And tapes can be even worse...
Of course, I'm not talking about different masterings.
I mean, given the same mastering, digital always have better signal/noise ratio, better channel separation, better dynamic range, etc...
And, as already pointed out:
On a blind test, that's it.
Let's never understimate the power of suggestion
Edit to make the point clear: But, of course, no vinyl record of a CD is...