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Reading this. The writing style is the polar opposite of the Dao De Jing which was just a handful of brief, abstract notes. By contrast, this book resembles classical greek philosophy in its dense text and focus on minutia. It's a bit of a hard read since, while a lot of the stories are anecdotal and contain fictional characters, many others deal with lightly criticizing the ideas of other contemporary chinese thinkers from the 100 schools of thought period, as well as makes mentions of events in ancient chinese history from before china was even a country, which chinese people would know but most others won't. At one point the book even mentions Laozi using two different names in the same paragraph and it took me a moment to figure out who this random third person that showed up in this story is. This mostly might just be a bad translation... in any case, you can read and understand the point being made in most stories without knowing most of this stuff but it does become tiresome to read at times. Generally it just explains the ideas in the book of Dao in a far more grounded and concrete way (by easten standards at least).
I have read this, and also listened to the Stephen Mitchell audiobook, which I am told has it's translation flaws. Still, the point seems to come across. Especially liked the story about the kings old chef who never sharpens his knives anymore.
The circle, an intent-y thing. not great.
Great book. Philip Marlowe is that great likable loser.
I only read big-dick billionaire porn nowadays
I found it a bit ironic the way that, in spite of the teachings of Dao, the various writers' rivalry and animosity for the other major thinkers from the 100 schools of thought period shine through (not including the ying yan school of though that was absorbed into Dao), most of all Confucianism. Mirroring the legendary (and probably untrue) story of Lazoi admonishing Confucius before leaving the kingdom, there are repeatedly stories throughout the book all of which go a little something like this:
"Fatass Confucius was walking around with his lame followers and his gay flute when he met a lonely farmer or fisherman or some shit who knew the Dao so he was much smarter than him. The fisherman/farmer/whatever said to Confucius: 'Remember how you were chased out of almost every state in warring-state period china? And how some states won't even let you in and you ended up poor and had to eat grass lol? And how they even cut down that stupid tree you liked so much? You sure are a pompous loser!'. And Confucius realized the error of his ways and how Daoism is #1. The End".
The book takes some jabs at Mo Ti and Shang Yang etc. But this story of Confucius being humiliated by random daoists just comes up over and over.
I'm currently reading Dope Inc. Written by Lyndon Larouche,David Goldman,Jeffrey Stienberg and others,associated with the US Labor Party. It's in tin foil hat territory in some parts and I don't always agree with conclusions they draw, but a great deal of the book is pretty well sourced and accurate. Interesting for sure. PDF can be downloaded for free.https://www.amazon.com/Dope-Inc-Drove-Henry-Kissinger/dp/0943235022
LoL Good Omens was fucking awesome. So reminded me of the discworld series.
Short book, but well worth a read.
Got a spark for reading the books by Arto Paasilinna. I like his way of writing lightly and humorously about edgy and dark subjects.
The best example was the one called Hurmaava Joukkoitsemurha trans. "A Charming Mass Suicide". The plot is about a coincidence of a dishonest business man and an army officer meeting each others after trying suicide. Then they put up an advertisement in a newspaper for all zew0's out there and go on a doomsday trip with a bus full of wackos. Great stuff!
I got this for my birthday:
A story about a growing on a woman and vice versa with a man, and a fuck ton of rape.
born on a rotten day by some fucking cunt about some stupid lulzy astrology shit when i was taking my last couple of shits
Sounds like a modern political manifesto.
You can't harvest my foreskin like the rest of them.
I'm reading Underworld and I'm about half way done.
It's very similar to his other works. You get the same philosophical points in this from "White Noise" but Underworld is ridiculously convoluted. There are something like 10 main recurring characters with dedicated chapters which don't follow a linear sequence with 20 year jumps between paragraphs at times without warning. It's a post-modernist brick with short story vignettes disconnected from one another linearly which slowly resolve themselves. There's this sort of airtight meshing of disconnected narratives and times. You've gotta appreciate discordant orchestra if you want to read this book because it's 700 pages without a plot and you will be disappointed.
The topics of all dialogue revolve around:
Taking mean shits
Now I'm going to try to summarize what's happened:
There's a fantastically written baseball opener where a black kid catches the game winning ball in the World Series final game; at the same time the first nukes are tested in the USSR. Then the next hundred pages are about Arizona, airplanes and more baseball with a funny chapter about black kids buying and stealing condoms like they're laminated sneakers. Then you go back in time to New York and nuns are treating aids patients in crack bombed out areas of the Bronx. Then the main character's wife fucks his Garbage Disposal coworker and snorts heroin. Then there's more fucking Arizona and there's some guy in Texas shooting commuters with a handgun on highways.Then you go back in time again to the 70s from a first chapter in the 50s and Arizona shit in the 90s. I think I'm in the 70s now but I haven't looked at the book in a few days.
The whole book is enjoyable but in a literary way that amounts to appreciation of craft and observational skill of the author.
Things not in the book:
The twin towers
New York City
one of my favourite authors.
This is his most famous book, but I personally found "The night in Lisbon" to be the best one of his out of the one's I've read.
reading this now
Ey, I have that one too
Good Omens is nice, yep...better than American Gods, imho
Not a fan of Neil Gaiman. Good Omens is the only one of his book's I've read and liked and half of it was written by someone else so...
He's witty and lectured, but suffers from terminal Hipsterism.
this was okay but a little disappointing
reading this now'
Really good back then, but has aged horribly bad. The "internet" bit is embarrasing to read nowadays...
Speaker for the Dead, the sequel, is less funny but a better novel, probably
Xenocide, the next one, it's ok, but a bit strange in its conclusion...and the rest of the saga (like a lot) and diverse spin-offs all suck, at least the ones I tried and abandoned
Interesting book with good points.
... for example, the greatest effect of this weapon was purely psychological.
I wish I knew Russian, so I could read their interpretation of Harry Potter called "Tanya Grotter and the Magical Double Bass" by Dmitri Emech. What's even weirder is how it turned from a parody into its own thing. Translation didn't happen, because it's probably better than its inspiration and Rowling is a cunt.
That's literally what that appears to say. "Tanya Grotter i magicheski kontrabas" I'm bamboozled.
I just read this short work of historical non-fiction. It takes a non-linear approach to the history of the 20th and early 21st century and runs down tons of applications of developments in history viewed through three different government structures of democracy, communism and fascism respectively. It also delves into most evolutions in human psychology from Freud to New Age, religion from 1880s Christianity to Scientology, linguistics, etc. The seamless continuity between totally different regions of the world, time frames and subjects can give the reader whiplash but it's really well put together and funny while informative. There are no chapters and every paragraph is a different thought.
So a good example:
"Psychiatrists said that in many people the First World War provoked traumas that had been previously hidden in the unconscious, and in the 1920s and 1930s the people started to be neurotic because they were not adapted to their inner or outer state, and in Europe in the 1960s, 25% of women and 15% of men were neurotic, and journalists called it the disease of the century. And in the 1970s the number of people suffering from depression also started to rise, and at the end of the century, every fifth citizen of Europe was depressed."
It then launches into an extensive series of short sentences explaining different psychological explanations for why these phenomenon occurred on such a mass scale. It's absolutely packed with statistics and oddities of history that manifest cyclically, like in the above quotation.
Very highly recommended.
Interesting, but I already knew most of this stuff and the entire book is style over substance
not a good book. there are better books out there about the scarpa's and the entire story can be summed up in one paragraph anyway
fbi hired a mobster as an informant so he committed crimes and murdered people for decades with impunity, he died, his son went to jail, was able to extract information out of an inmate that could have prevented 9/11, but no one did anything and then they hid him away at a supermax prison so no one will find out how they fucked up.
trying to read this now and it's tedious
the same point is made over and over on every single page
I love Bob the Angry Flower. It's as ugly as it is unfunny and the font is so illegible that reading every single strip is like an arduous task that you are rewarded for by a painfully unfunny punchline. Ans since he's been making this comic for like 3 decades now, you can just keep torturing yourself forever. This strip in particular is a treat because, unless the book completely changes focus at some later point I haven't gotten to yet, it seems like he didn't read or didn't really understand this book.