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Discussion in 'News' started by Stormtrooper, Apr 14, 2012.
As strong as the lulz was in this one, his common sense weren't.
Once you sign on in any government position (including military), you give up the right to make any public comments that are deemed religious, political, racial, National (both foreign and domestic) and cultural. Basically anything worth lulz. Chain of command even mentions this as a reminder to all personnel on a regular basis.
Damn straight. Even most corporate jobs are like this. I don't have a problem with that. A roof over my head and bread on my table are worth more than a fucking facebook post that gets 50 likes to me.
That said, if we pulled our feet off the throats of businesses and stopped suing them for frivolous shit that their employees did, companies might be a little more tolerant of free speech. Also, they would find that if they only wanted to hire people with politically correct opinions, they couldn't hire anybody.
How shocking, a marine being a fucking retard. Didn't see that one coming.
No, it's not like Zimmerman - he's not a fat Mexican
That's why I won't be taking any government jobs. You can't be yourself.
moral of the story is: if you're gonna do this, do it anonymously
Mywhat? Are there still people who use it?
Making comments like that on twitter is pretty dumb, but I think it's gay that people lose their jobs and ruin their careers that way. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?
"-As long as people like this exist and are allowed to speak with impunity-"
Funny, suddenly my head is filled with the Roman Numeral I.
It'll pass, I'm sure.
America doesn't pay these guys to be limp wristed fags.
Yea, they just call it Facebook now.
People need to lighten the fuck up. This poor bastard has been given the arse due to personal comments made via his personal account.
I reckon what he said was bloody funny. Good on him.
Political correctness strikes again. A good marine is now fucked and will become a burden on society (and hopefully a member of EDF).
Wow the tweet wasn't even that funny, it was just stupid. If it was really funny, I would have said stand by it, by no that guy is just a retard.
“I needed to share this with all of you. This guy is sick. As long as people like this exist and are allowed to speak with impunity, none of our children are safe.”
The children! + Witch!
I think I'm gonna search for some stake manufacturers to invest on their bussiness...
Whomever wrote the Military Times is a troll with hardened skin.
Did he actually lose his job? All I read was that he's "under fire."
He is being Administratively separated from the Marine Corps. Disregard, LOL.
I did find different sources though:
http://www.stripes.com/news/california-marine-apologizes-for-trayvon-martin-tweet-1.174331 (comments section is entertaining)
I must've missed the part where he was jailed for his comments.
Just an FYI, having the ability to say something does not mean you will not have to deal with the consequences of saying said thing.
While it is supposedly legal for me to run down the street yelling "FUCK YOU!" into the face of everyone I meet, I am likely to get punched or arrested within an hour.
Also, when you join the military, you give up all rights and privileges associated with a civilian life. In exchange you get to kill people and be congratulated for it.
you have the right to free speech, but along with it comes the right to face consequences
True on the consequences part, however overreaction is a form of censorship.
I think back to the Dixie Chicks (whom I personally loath, however I'll defend to the death their right to produce their shit music and voice their vapid opinions) - when they made that comment (in Germany, from memory) about being ashamed of GWB being from TX (can't be bothered looking up the exact info, but that's pretty close) there was a massive backlash.
People smashed & burned their albums, radio stations stopped playing them etc; all of which prevented them from earning a living. Next time, they and other such artists will self-censor for fear of reprisals. Preventing people earning money is not that different to putting them in prison, but because the former is done by the collective of PC douches and not the government, then it's OK.
I'm sure we've all reaped the consequences of speaking our minds at various points in our lives. I'm not talking about people arguing a point, I'm talking about people taking steps to make our lives worse due to an opinion we voice or comment we made.
This is true. Martial law and all that. Soldiers are basically de facto slaves by contract. Of course most of them are stupid so they never find out.
I like how the overall tone of the article is "watch what you post", because asking them to stop being racist douches is too much apparently.
Answering questions truthfully is what got me kicked from USNAVY. No one really wants to hear the truth, they want to hear what they want to hear. Some people have helpful built in filters that prevent them from hearing anything but that.
It's the military. What do you expect?
Nah, you're right. He just lost his job and had his career ruined.
We don't have a right to jobs. We don't have a right to paychecks. We don't have a right to houses. We have a right not to get hauled off in handcuffs for expressing an opinion. To say otherwise establishes a very different society where people are entitled to a lot of things we aren't. I don't want to live in a society when people can't voluntarily engage in contracts without a third party intervening for the supposed good of society.
Spot on, that is the basis of discipline; being able to control thoughts for the better good of the squad, platoon, division or whatever. You can't have room for pansies when you are in a muddy trench in pouring rain, while those Nazi bastards try their hardest to kill you; otherwise we are all dead.