SOPA and PIPA have been stopped for now... what about ACTA?

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    ACTA is just as insane as SOPA and PIPA, so what are we gonna do about it? I don't see rioting in the streets, censored logos on sites, or anything else like that for ACTA, we need to do something, guess this is as good a place to start as any
     
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    If it's anything like SOPA and PIPA, it will probably just get rejected for being "unconstitutional", just like dozens of other similar propositions have been before it. Either way, I don't really give a shit anymore.
     
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    you see? you don't even know what it is. it's an international thing.
     
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    I just went and looked it up and if anything, I think it will, too, be postponed for the same reasons regarding SOPA and PIPA. There will be more major "blackouts" and they'll be revised, as well. Personally, I think the government should just stop trying to put a stop to these things because there will still be loopholes and ways to maneuver around the bills and the Internet will remain the same.
     
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    the reason this one's a bit more worrying is that it's being done by a large number of countries, not just one
     
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    That's true but these other countries are smarter than us. Check out Poland!
     
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    true, they are a bit brighter, but the corporations can be very influential. they can refuse to sell to one particular country for instance
     
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    They will just wait for people to forget about ACTA/PIPA/SOPA and then re-market them as something "family Friendly"
     
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    or earmark it onto another bill to try to sneak it past
     
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    Hey, did Obama really Sign off on the NDAA bill?
     
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    it's been signed EVERY YEAR for the last 50 years or so.
     
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    What?
     
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    when sopa stopped, they still closed down megaupload.
    they dont give a fuck, they just need a reason to back up their actions.
    thus sopa, pipa, acta, wacka flocka
     
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    ??????????????????
     
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    the NDAA is a bill that has been passed once a year for about 50 years now. it's the budget for the Defense Agency, if it isn't passed then we HAVE no defense agency
     
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    ACTA also has a clause in it saying if you leave the country any type of border control or Airport security has the right to search your ipod or laptop for any copyright infringement. Not only does it effect the internet it will also effect different market such as Health Care, Auto Industry, and the Agriculture. ACTA protect all forms of Copyright not just the Internet.
     
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    yeah, that bit's actually a bit more frightening to me.

    NOBODY is allowed to see my hard drive contents except me.
     
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    NDAA has existed that long but go read the fiscal act for the year of 2012 about detaining american citizens under "suspicion of terrorism"
     
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    While the 2012 NDAA allows the US to detain people “under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities,” it does not define what “hostilities” are, and it does not indicate what needs to happen for us to have reached an “end” to said hostilities. This is not just an issue of semantics; indeed, the vagueness of this language creates a framework that reaches its logical and sinister conclusion in the remarks of Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), who called the United States of America “part of the battlefield” in the so-called War on Terror.
    The 2012 NDAA effectively leaves the door wide open for human rights abuses so egregious that if they were to take place almost anywhere else in the world (Iran, for instance, or North Korea—or Afghanistan and Iraq for that matter), Congress would, at the very least, pretend to express outrage. Within the United States, however, passing legislation that has the potential to turn a democracy into a police state of Orwellian proportions is presented not only as acceptable, but necessary, all in the name of “national security.”

    NDAA, SOPA, ACTA, The Patriot Act, its all the same thing going after the same exact goal, only benefiting Big Brother and the Bankers/Lobbyists.
     
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    ah, that part. I thought you meant the budget.
     
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    so I see...

    yeah, this is a problem, thanks for the heads up
     
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    I have an opinion on this. I want all these bills to pass and be signed into law (SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, NDAA w/ infamous provision, PCIPA, etc). I think extreme measures are necessary to wake the American people up. I call for a more violent revolution, an upheaval, a massive coup. I want to destroy the pillars that hold this bureaucracy above the heads of the people. I want an end to holding hands in streets, to sitting down in front of banks in "protest". The people must realize that the system will not fall unless they destroy it.