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    https://jme.bmj.com/content/39/5/261

    The dude is not there. That's why she's most likely getting an abortion. A baby would interfere with her lifestyle.
     
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    Isn't that usually involved with a DNR? Again the insurance companies do not have authorization to pull the plug on anyone. Period. There are several legal cases on this.
     
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    Yes hi can i have some more info or even a pamphlet on the "AFTER BIRTH ABORTION" Id like to try and convince my mom to get one on me ok thanks
     
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    They can't pull the plug but they can tell the family that their preauth has been denied, the procedure will cost them 200k out of pocket, and if they have a problem call the 1-800 number on the back of your card and file a grievance. This shit happens every day.
     
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    See above. Good luck on the proceedure. Can I have all your vidya games? Thanks.

    And people fight it and win all the time.
     
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    Also preauths have nothing to do with Do Not Resuscitate like you suggested. It's a standard part of the HMO claim process for just about everything. Your lack of knowledge on healthcare is astounding.
     
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    Killing someone is not healthcare may be the reason. Plus, you seem to ignore the fact people take this to court and win all the time.
     
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    Lol 'lifestyle.' So why'd the dude put his dong unwrapped into such a so called lifestyle having irresponsible slut?
    Takes two to tango. You wanna shame the slut shame the fucker that poked her too.

    Oh lol ur article. Lol.
    So it's basically a multidisciplinary research study suggesting that euthanasia for bbys born with severe defects should be considered? #saveourcabbagepatchveggies
    Jk.

    All life is sacred. But for someone with no quality of life, idk which would be kinder for BBY. Let them live n cut holes in their necks for a trach, holes in their tummy for a peg tube, they're hooked up to a vent full time n stuck in a crib staring at a ceiling until some infection takes them. They can't feel, see or even interact with their surroundings. They're vegetables. Dunno. Fucking terrible existence but who decides?

    But yeah killing kids who do have a chance, naw. No bueno.
     
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    If they have $ n knowledge to do that. Most don't.
     
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    You didn't read far enough.
    They seem to leave out the "birth defect" part. Eh? Why is that?
     
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    There are lots of lawyers who take this sort of case pro-bono. Money isn't the issue.

    Yes it does take two different sexes to make a baby, but only if you are a bigoted CIS gendered, hetronormative person. It's 2019 it's time to stop the hate, Radha. Seriously.
     
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    Lol because it's a research study with an obvious bend to its info.

    Got anything backing up this widespread leftist conspiracy or is it just one outlying wingnut study on the 'philosophical' rights of infants?
     
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    We went from "Insurance companies cant deny coverage" to "Make sure you have a good lawyer when they deny coverage" in 2 posts

    Tim stop talking out of the side of your neck on subjects you have no knowledge of.
     
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    BMJ is leftist conspiracy?
    British Medical Journal? Seriously? K.

    Equating a fetus with an infant for the sole purpose to kill it is morally wrong. If not then Kermit Gosnell did nothing wrong.
     
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    And most ppl don't know those lawyers exist. Fuck most families in those situations are so overwhelmed they don't know which way is up, let alone how to fight for their loved ones treatments.

    Yeah I forgot about all the harpy lesbians dumpster diving for used condoms just so they can turkey baster concieve then demand an abortion, right?
     
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    They fight it because insurance companies don't have that authority. Do try to keep up baldy.
     
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    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lawyer to fight for medical rights#
    This is more autistic than usual from you. But, ok.
     
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    You say it's a leftist conspiracy conspiracy. I say it's a research article (one outlying one) published in a peer reviewed journal, regarding potential issues and benefits for all parties, regarding euthansia of infants.

    It's info has an obvious slant, because that's the purpose of a study. This isn't policy, it is not accepted practice, it's not being put towards a board. It's a study on a collection of issues.
     
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    OH yeah?
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a...ge-lets-woman-walk-after-drowning-her-newborn


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22361296
    https://www.bioedge.org/bioethics/after_birth_abortion_already_exists_in_the_netherlands/10499
     
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    The response was to illustrate that people use Google to find information, such as lawyers in medical cases. How hungover are you? Or is this the new normal with you?
     
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    Lol first one is fucking Canada's version of Casey Anthony.

    Can't read more than the abstract for the second. Third is exactly what I said b4, kids born with severe defects with no hope for quality of life. And even still, it's controversial within the medical community.
    The so-called Groningen Protocol (GP) in the Netherlands allows euthanasia of newborns under strict conditions if there is “hopeless and unbearable suffering” and both parents give “informed consent”. Dr Verhagen claims that there were fewer instances of newborn euthanasia after the publication of the GP – but for reasons not connected with it. With more prenatal screening, more women opted for terminations of pregnancy in difficult cases like spinal bifida. The number of newborn euthanasia cases actually fell from 15 in 2005 to 2 in 2010.

    The GP is, of course, very controversial. In an article in The Lancet in 2008, a paediatric oncologist and bioethicist at the Cleveland Clinic, Erik Kodish, angrily repudiated it. “The very notion that there is an ‘accepted medical standard’ for infanticide calls for resistance in the form of civil disobedience,” he wrote.

    However, in some cases, “after-birth abortion” might be the most sensible treatment, Verhagen believes, as it allows the parents and the doctors to make a more accurate diagnosis and to discuss treatment opinions. “If all stakeholders conclude that the prognosis is very grim, the babies condition is judged as one with sustained and intolerable suffering, and the parents request for euthanasia, why should that not be permissible as an alternative to second trimester termination?”
     
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    Insurance companies have guidelines (they write themselves) about what they can deny, and what circumstances will cause those denials.

    Having a lawyer shouldn't be part of the health care process, nor should someone have to sit on the phone for 40 minutes with a customer service rep in the Philippines trying to get them to understand what an appeal is.

    People die because of insurance companies adding bureaucratic incompetence to everything they touch. It's a huge problem with our current system.
     
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    Oh I forget you've got the emotional intelligence n empathy of a turnip. Sorry.

    Normal ppl who aren't sociopathic robots don't respond by going to the internet. They trust the system. Too much usually.
     
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    Exactly what part don't you understand? Why are you a nurse? Aren't you the one who told me "you can't play God," when some sandshit is wounded when killing and maiming US soldiers? Now you are advicating actual action in killing another living being. Wow hypocrisy much?
     
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    When a false authority is trying to kill a loved one you'll do anything you can. Are you telling me people won't research venues of action because -- what exactly? The internet is made for pron and shitposting only? It's "not fair" for people to look for a lawyer on the internet?

    Really? That's your argument? You're a fucking idiot. You will be a shitty nurse. Go back to PA where you belong.
     
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    And having a government run healthcare system will make it better? Really? Vets were dying while waiting for treatment at the VA. The government doesn't care about you when will you get that through your bald head?
     
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    are you argumenting insurance companies care more than the government right now?
     
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    Anyone against abortion is an authoritarian who hates freedom
     
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