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Discussion in 'Religion & Politics' started by Boudica, Aug 4, 2015.

  1. Linkermann

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    America is not the world's police and has no right to meddle everywhere.
     
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    We have every right. Just like you have the right to intervene when you witness a crime. Your intervention may be nothing more than placing a call to 911. But, what if there is no 911? What do you do?

    Having laws or rules and not enforcing them is like not having them at all. We've seen the results of the UN's efforts when policing a situation; it gets worse. It gets horribly, dreadfully, insanely worse.

    Whether you like it or not, the US, UK are the world's cop until some other nation wants to take over the job. The US navy keeps, (largely) shipping lanes open and (relatively) pirate free.

    Although, I do wish matters which require swift action, such as the Iran Hostage situation of 1979, happened swiftly, and Libya and Syria were more studied.
     
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    That is complete bullshit. Every country has its own laws and the meddling of other countries can be illegal in cases.
     
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    WHATS THE WORLD GONNA DO ABOUT IT?
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    USA USA USA USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!!
     
  5. Linkermann

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    You'll get more Jihad.
     
  6. Groyper Supreme

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    No one gave a flying fuck about Libya's laws when France, FRANCE took the lead and helped oust Qaddafi.

    Is that what caused 1st bombing attempt of the WTC? Is that what caused 9/11? LOL no. Read the Queeran if you can stomach it. You'll find out the reasons why moolims are at a constant state of war. If you need further clarification on why moolimes attack other moolimes I would suggest reading the Hadiths.
     
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    I've recently read a Muslim's interpretation of the Qu'ran, you ignorant fuck.
     
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    Did they gloss over the part where it's completely acceptable to kill all non-believers?
     
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    To be specific, I've read Mahmoud Mohamed Taha's The Second Message of Islam. He was executed for apostasy because of what he wrote. According to him, there are original and subsidiary precepts and the subsidiary precepts replace the original precepts. They were needed because the first people to whom the Qu'ran was revealed could not understand it, so they are to act as "transitional" means. Very simply, death is a subsidiary. So is slavery. Slavery is only to God and nonbelievers are kept as slaves in order to help them become slaves of God by being slaves to a true slave of God.

    I'm getting too out of character now... Basically, the book was badly put together and there's many absurd gibberish in it. Like the part on the necessity of restricting women's freedom. There were some good ideas in it, but those are also present in the Bible.
     
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    Lol this nigga thinks american involvement makes countries better
     
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    So the gibberish of Mohammad was beyond the intellegence of only persons of "very high intelligence." LOL What is this guy, islamic version of Mikemikev?

    OH yeah. Perfectly benign and peaceful. Oppress them until they submit. Who decides when the slaves have submitted to Allah? Oh the slave masters. What could go wrong?
     
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    Everyone is totally free. But when he/she abuses his/her freedom to limit the freedom of others, his/her freedom must be curtailed. (That's what the book said.)
     
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    You seem to forget there are two houses which rule Merica. One that gets shit done and done right -- see Trump, T. Roosevelt., Ike, Lincoln etc., and the house that is born to lose, Kennedy, LBJ, Obama, Clinton, etc.
     
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    Yeah. Just like islam is a "religion" of peace.
    Really you're going to pull out some Old Testament (Torah) Bullshit?

    Exactly when was the last time Christianity went on the warpath to strictly kill, enslave and subjugate other people of different religions?
    Anti-Christianity attack denied.
     
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    Well, it views Jesus as just a prophet before the final prophet, Mohamed.
     
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    It also attempted some mind games that there is what the Qu'ran says and that there's a hidden meaning which only the wisest believers understand (and it is usually the opposite).
     
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    Can you name a single situation where the US taking unwanted military action against a nation under the pretense of doing it for democracy, freedom, the peoples good etc etc, has ever turned out well, made said peoples lives better, or even worked at all?
     
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    Unwanted by whom?


    US Independence
    Barbary States conflict.
    US Civil War
    Spain.
    WW1
    WW2
    Korea.
    Grenada.
    Iraq if Obunghole didn't fuck up the reconstruction.
     
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  21. Why burgers act like their terrorist acts must not just justified also glorified?
     
  22. Likeicare

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    If you had actually read the question you would have realised that im not asking about wars

    The question also clearly states "made the populations life better"

    The iraqis hate america. Their lives were fine beforehand. The current generation of iraqis are all growing up knowing that it is directly due to the US that their country is fucked

    Stop blaming obama for bush's mistakes
     
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    It's still the russians?
     
  25. Groyper Supreme

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    1980's attack on Qaddafi then. Just military operations?

    Before the Iranians stepped in and corrupted the populace with their anti-American hate. LOL no. They loved Merica and Bush. You forget Saddam and his sons Uday and Qusay were power drunk monsters.
    At the end of Bush 43 Iraq was having the first ever talks in a newly and freely elected Parliament about oil revenue sharing. What the fuck are you even talking about?

    Can't believe you would shill for Obama. Obama literally handed over Iraq over to the ISIS/Iranians. Iraq and Iran had an ongoing feud since the 80's remember? Jarret, from Iran, was Obama's personal advisor who without clearance sat in Top Secret National security briefs. Seeing a connection here, and it's a little more direct than any Russian collusion theory, and you wonder why Iraq went to shit in literally 24 months after Obama took the mantle?

    Timeline Reader's Digest Version:
    Jan 2009 Obama sworn in.
    Dec 2011 Obama's "Final US Troop withdrawal."
    Dec 2011 ISIS makes significant gains. -- US Troops extended.

    The Iraqi's hate us because we didn't keep our word. Thanks Obama.
     
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  27. Likeicare

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    Bush invaded and killed half a million people under the false pretences that Iraq had wmds knowing full well the only ones they did have were in abandoned bunkers that his father helped them build

    You're right, Obama is a monster
     
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    @Groyper Supreme before you log in to start shilling for Bush again, im just going to remind you that not only did he commit an act of terrorism against the American public, lied to the world as he invaded and destroyed 2 countries, but he also wasnt even elected president. A truly illegitimate president
     
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    And Gaddafi was just a clown of the US. He had no WMD.
     
  30. I HATE CANADIANS

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    Is it me or did the left shut up finally
     
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