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Discussion in 'Religion & Politics' started by Boudica, Aug 4, 2015.

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    Liberalism is bankrupt - liberals pay fealty to freedom of speech, democracy, the rule of law & human rights but violate those principles on a daily basis both domestically and externally i.e. shitting on the poor, implementing policies that redistribute wealth from the 99% to the 1%, crack down on civil liberties and free speech, bombing niggers overseas and supplying military aid to despotic regimes overseas that serve Western business interests.
     
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    It's far, far more retarded than that. Take the formerly self-declared Liberalists, for instance. Within months if not weeks of officially starting their movement they had completely alienated the libertarians and social conservatives. Then went on concede every point to the Alt Right except for tangible identity. Then all but admitted that the only way to maintain liberalism and civic nationalism was via totalitarian measures. And for what? Subsidised healthcare and unrestricted porn. I'm not even joking.

    These people don't understand what they're fighting for. Within two decades they'll be like today's communists in the former eastern bloc, marching pointlessly in the street for a bygone era that was miserable to everyone but a select few.

    Oh and of course the Liberalists champion the American Empire as benevolent. Never mind that America has, almost without fail, sided with the worst factions, groups and governments in every region in the world. There's a reason America turning on its allies is a running joke.
     
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    The US mainstream media presents the American state as benevolent exactly when the state is behaving in a malevolent manner, for example when the US and its client states in Central & South America were economically suffocating Sandinista-controlled Nicaragua with strict trade sanctions back in the 1980s and essentially held the country to ransom during elections, with the US saying the trade embargo would be lifted if they voted 'the right way', the New York Times called it a "Victory For US Fair Play". Or they'll go virtually silent on issues such as the mass murders, massacres that bordered on genocide and other atrocities perpetrated by US-backed & US DoD School of the Americas/WHINSEC-trained military death squads such as the Contras in Nicaragua and the Atlacatl Battalion in El Salvador.

    Indeed, it is a joke that the US turns on its allies and not just in the case of the Iran nuclear deal but the Soviet Union, Saddam Hussein and the less talked about former Panamanian military ruler & CIA asset Manuel Noriega who died a year ago.
     
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    Both of you act as if Merica is the only one who does this. This is the status quo and has been for long before Merica woke up and said, "whoa you guys really suck at this." There is no way to ever remove this type of overt interaction. Even if a country removed themselves entirely from it, they are eventually forced to make a decision about it because the problem is now within their borders. See France, see UK, see Sweden, see Germany, even Switzerland -- ok Germany not so much. Germany seemingly is destined to be the first western progressive nation to destroy itself in effort to balance the cosmic scales of racial/economic/social inequality. (The Justine Trudeau doctrine)
     
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    The others that behave this way are more times than not American client states i.e. the UAE, Egypt & Saudi Arabia. Stay butthurt
     
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    Tell me something. Why won't america just gtfo the middle east already? You're pissing off too many people, meddlers.
     
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    Three reasons: oil, empire and the threat of a good example i.e. a poor country managing to unshackle itself from the chains of poverty and put its people first before business interests.
     
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    Because the deep state need to shovel money into the military to get paid
     
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    We're either doing the bidding of Saudi Arabia or Israel, more recently Russia. US military services go to the highest bidder, and the bids are made by purchasing billions in weapons systems. Russia gets a free pass because Putin has kompromat on Trump.

    Oil has been irrelevant to US interests since the Bush administration ended. Trump made "take the oil" a rallying cry on the campaign trail because Obama wasn't doing it, which let ISIS seize control over swaths of land and attributed to their rapid growth.

    There's no end in sight as both political parties are bent on military expeditions at the behest of the military industrial complex which alone has more money than every country in Africa combined. Their lobbyist ensure that politicians remain in check and the public is consistently fed a warm dose of pro-war propaganda from both left and right-wing media. The only anti-war media is on the fringes of either side.

    If you want something to hope for, the US debt is 20 trillion and nobody seems to care about fixing it. Economics may swing power over to China, I'm sure their iron fist will be just as benevolent.
     
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    I've heard one knowledgable history academic from the University of Wisconsin, Prof. Alfred McCoy put a date on when China will eclipse the US in economically on The Intercept's Intercepted podcast last year, around the year 2030. China is practicing, and will continue to practice the same statecraft and empirical behaviour the US engages in, but without the shallow veneers of human rights, liberty, freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
     
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    Was that proven?
     
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    Haha no but I find it funny how Trump handles him with kid gloves but goes balls out on everyone else.
     
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    They're probably good friends... Similarly, Trump's supporters nitpick on the actions of liberals and democrats, but can't admit when Trump fucks up (like bombing Syria for Assad's alleged use of bio weapons). They blame the deep state for everything.
     
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    Perhaps they're just buds, it's a reasonable explanation. Time will tell.

    As for conservatives not admitting when Trump fucks up I think that's a mixed bag. A lot of Trump supporters were pissed when he did it (both times). Not enough to denounce support for him though. They're blaming everything on the deep state right now because they need an excuse for their inefficiency despite controlling all branches of government. It's either that or try and find a way to reverse-engineer Hillary as a scapegoat.
     
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    This is not kid gloves
     
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    Yeah, Hillary always comes up. That she should be brought to justice for her email server. So does Obama, that he was committing illegal acts too (don't remember what they say those are).

    Seems more like material for a tabloid piece to me.
     
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    Giving them 48 hours to move their assets by telegraphing a missile launch is definitely handling it with kids gloves.

    He might as well offer to rebuild the sites too.
     
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    My favorite Obama conspiracy was about him sucking crack and smoking dick in 1999
     
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    I like the Michelle Obama is a man.
     
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    Deleted emails, Benghazi, Pizzagate, Uranium One, Loretta Lynch, etc etc.

    3 out of 5 of those do have some validity. I used to work with a guy who was a politico and had to deal with Hillary's people. They basically strongarm everyone into getting their way. 2016 was an election between a two-faced DC mobster and a two-bit NY mobster.
     
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    I was shocked when I first saw the Project Veritas recordings of Hillary's people describing how they stage unrest at campaign events.
     
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    Felix explains the two campaigns accurately
     
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    As they ignore the actual unrest on their own side over fucking Bernie with a broom handle in the primaries.
     
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