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Discussion in 'Hall of AEpic' started by gizmo01942, Jan 11, 2015.
EDF starts WW3
You guys are all essentially saying: YAY PUBLISH THIS!! FREE SPEECH! AWESOME! WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN SAY WHAT WE WANT WITHOUT BEING AFRAID OF REPRECUSSIONS!
I'm not saying you should be harmed. I'm saying that we should be considerate of others, especially in a globalized world. There are lines to be crossed. I personally believe that it crossed one of them.
What do you think I was saying?
After I made and ate my Hamburger Helper I'm just not feeling up for debate anymore.
@boltman - we will make sure to note that you are anti-mss2015
They think its okay to bully people when someone say please stop because it makes a tougher and stronger person. They promote racist harassment.
Why should EDF be quarantined for something YOU find morally reprehensible? Or anyone outside for that matter? If the community found this sim so aweful, Im sure it would cease to be.
And if anyone (Muslims in this case) doesn't like that someone made a game about Muhammad they can simply ignore it, or insult us right back, or make a game of their own where gizmo fucks goats and gets pissed on by black science man. Hell, I'd be perfectly okay if it was me who was the subject of such ridicule. And if they really don't like it they can always immigrate back to their countries of origin where blasphemy is a punishable offense. Why should anyone have to limit what they can and cannot say just because a tiny minority of people are offended by it?
That's a funny joke mang.
It's EDF.There are places where consideration is expected,this is not one of them.
Tigercommander once said your Prophet is too great to be slurred against by a mere man or smth like that.IDK
Yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm not fine with it being actively spread outside of EDF with malicious intent, though.
Offending people for the sake of it can be immoral. Be immoral on EDF all you want, I don't care. But spreading it to people that did not ask for it is something else.
I'm against this mentality of insulting people for the sake of insulting people. It's unethical and immoral.
this is a personal action... playing a video game is a personal choice... gizmo n co are allowed to share the game, and since not everybody is going to be offended by it (you said yourself earlier that one of the people trying to stop the terrorists at charlie hebdo situation was a muslim himself) then what is the harm? being offended by something is a personal choice. you can choose to have your feelings hurt by it, or you can not. there are people on this forum that i do not like talking to, do i chase down every post they make and respond with mean hurtful things every time they make a post? no
if i read their opinion and agree with it, i even like their post... it does not matter to me anymore because i know that whether i dislike them or not, they are here and are going to keep posting.
you can make this game coming out a personal issue, or you can not. people here want to play it, they are spreading it so that other people may see it and laugh and play it as well. a muslim person helped translate the game. it is not an outright personal attack, it's more like an awareness that there's some shitty people in the world who are going to be upset by this... but if people are willing to die for freedom of speech, which they should be because freedom of speech is a very, very precious thing, then what meaning have you given your freedom if you do not embrace it and use it how you want to?
if you censor yourself, it becomes very easy to allow yourself to be controlled and stepped on
lol 4chan tried doing that already when they got leaked phone numbers for launh sites and the situatioon room and started prank calling them trying to get them to attack iran or russia. good times. #doitall4thelulz
Again, you're stating these things as if they're negatives.
Whoever said your perspective on what's "WRONG or RIGHT" was correct to begin with? Are you now making that decision for all of us here?
So where were you when the Sandy Hook game was made? Bullet to the Head of NRA? Zimmerman Safari shoot? Of all the games that gizmo made, and you chose that this was the one that crossed the line because Muhammad is your prophet. Like with @minty, I never played this game, nor will I spread it around (besides, distribution of pornography is illegal in Korea). I tolerate Muslims, Atheists, Hindus, Jews, and all religions and beliefs in the real world. But this is EDF, where we can throw that out the window and dive headfirst into satire to have lulz and TomPreston circlejerk. EDF is where anything and everything gets made fun of. If you're uncomfortable with some of the things, good for you. Ignore it and move on.
Fair enough I guess. I don't really know what to tell you. I mean, in the end, this is just on the internet. Besides, every revered religious figure has been slurred against at some point.
Also, lol @ massive text walls from everybody.
this too... what is right for one person is wrong for another
my next text wall is going to be larger than you are
lol i love how the tags section has turned into a pastebin of schnookums
You are so kooky
If y'all wanna be butthurt in a very tl;dr manner you should move it to religion and politics where it belongs and stop spamming up the thread that is bringing people to ED.
@ilovejesus69 boltman told me in pm that he wants you to ban him.
Don't give him the satisfaction.
Are you illiterate? Have you been reading what I've been saying? I LITERALLY TYPED OUT "That's just one Muslim's opinion, though" WHEN REFERRING TO MYSELF. What the hell man? Of course I'm not. That's WHY I ACTUALLY SAID it's only MY opinion.
@minty well put. but people have died because of too much freedom of speech, too. we don't live in your idea of an ideal world. there are practical boundaries.
also, @everyone saying "lol where were u when"
this is active spreading of a cancer with malicious intent. there's a difference
I ate too much. It's wonderful to be able to say that.
Mistah, me nos yous upsetted but keep itz kleen pulleese! I might get my fucking FEELINGS hurt!
What exactly is different about this game in particular that makes it so cancerous that the others were not? That you are now part of the group that is potentially offended by this?
If that actually happened, I'd pay to see the history books written afterward trying to explain it.
Stop fighting you guise! This is what Tom Preston wants!
Hurt my feelings all you want. The innocent child didn't ask for any of this. The innocent person is being exposed to things that insult the values he or she was raised upon. It's discrimination on a large scale meant to invoke fury in a significant amount of people. Cut the crap. Let's get real. Some things cross a line. Some other minor things don't.
i have already said i don't believe there's such a thing as too much freedom of speech
who defines how much is too much? who defines when a line has been drawn? that is a personal thing for each person. somebody can say one thing and it will be offensive to some people and not offensive to others. that is precisely why people should fight and die for freedom of speech, especially now where people are getting scared of offending others BECAUSE people are getting killed for it. here's an article in the news about people in thailand being arrested for "conspiracy to insult the monarchy"
so, disliking a politician is an arrestable offence. i do not want anybody deciding for me what i can and can not like, what i can and can not say, etc
the practical boundaries you should be seeking is "nobody physically being hurt by anything"
those are the only boundaries that should be discussed in this situation. ideas and thoughts should not be censored