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  1. Azrael

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    lol I can't wait until someone reports him to the FBI
     
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    Might not have to wait. I'm sure by now he's probably on the Secret Service's watchlist.
     
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    Awww he just wants Trump-Senpai to notice him! :D
     
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    About time for the Big Gubmint to join in the fun and organize a Dobfolder of their own, constantly replenished by their variety of ED and Kiwi Dobson autism. :D

    Speaking of which, how deep will the Feds dig into the past of 'public enemy' on Dobson's level? Or are they going to limit themselves to keeping an eye out for one panting, obese neckbeard whenever POTUS comes anywhere near MN?
     
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    The irony to this comic is still staggering.

    Anyways, it's interesting that he admits he's a shit artist. But he does anything about that? Nah.
     
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    I've been thinking, if dobson made a comic with himself as the antagonist instead of being just a smug asshole who's canonically (rather, in his own mind) always correct he might actually get some following. And grow up.
    That could help his patreon too with Kiwis and such throwing their pocket money at him (and after some decent consistency, maybe old critics and/or stalkers too) - now he's at $38ish with 21 patrons?
     
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    It wouldn't work because to Dobson, only the antagonists are flawed and in his mind, Dobson has no flaws and therefore him being an antagonist would contradict his reasoning.
     
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    Only in Dobson's mind, I believe.
     
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    That's not even very inaccurate for this modern landscape, though. People still interpret characters as pillars representing their various affiliate groups rather than just being people with affiliations.
     
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    I hate the idea of forced diversity or people who don't have a diverse cast being secretly racist/bigots/whatever.
    You don't need to force different races, sexualities, beliefs, into your story - it'll probably be better without forced characters than it'd be with them.

    No-one is afraid of diversity saying something political, for most people diverse casts either happen or don't.
    Would I be wrong if I stated that most people make their character a minority if the character feels like they might be certain race or sexuality (when it isn't about the theme/story itself, a story about racism or lesbians or so forth would call for different characters to fill in the slots), not to fill some quota. If you make a character simply because you need a black muslim lesbian so that your cast is diverse enough, you'll probably end up with a boring, flat character that is so inoffensive and stale there's nothing to her but being minority.
    You can simply make a character and go "what if she was black?" while designing her, then go ahead and figure she might make a good romantic partner for another female character and experience some inner conflict due to her belief system, and that her differences might work nicely with other characters' traits to bring different dynamics into the story.

    If you go "does this character need to be white/straight/whatever?" instead, you're going to be judgemental and prejudiced. You're going to notice stereotypes you yourself hold (although these types of people won't admit they are the ones stereotyping people) and try to avoid any actual flaws so hard your characters are just a list of good traits and inoffensive quirks - or some actual flaws which get excused because "it's okay to hate your oppressor/men can't be raped/punch all bigots/men are naturally evil".
    See; any main characters of sjw types' comics.
     
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    You're not wrong for bringing that up.

    Thing is, people should only write what they know. Forced diversity is bullshit because many people don't know how to properly write people from some other group, especially if they aren't part of that group and/or have little actual experience with them. Like if someone injected an Asian character into their story... but if they don't know how to write Asian characters, they'll probably so some stupid shit like Chinese Samurai, or characters with last names like Wong or Chan or Tojo, because they don't know any better. Remember that Arab X-Men character who had the power over SAND? Of ALL the things they could've made an Arab mutant be about, it had to be SAND.
    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_(comics)

    That shit is worse. I'd rather have NO Asian characters than shitty Asian characters. If you don't say anything, at least you're not saying anything wrong. Leave Asian Empowerment to actual Asians like me. Like, I included Asian characters in my stories because I wanted to... and because I wasn't going to wait for some white guy to do it for me, only to royally fuck it up.

    IMHO, there are two ways to inject minority characters into the story:
    * take the Star Trek route where race is never brought up and the issues of the story involve non-race issues, and the characters just happen to be black, women, etc
    * characters who exist because you actually understand the nuances of their group and thus use them as a way to discuss legitimate issues facing that group

    People like Dobson only inject certain characters because he has a fetish for them, and that is maybe one of the WORST reasons to include a character, because they exist only for the gratification of the writer. Of course if they're writing porn, that's something else, because at least they're being honest about their fetishization. But adding gay characters because you think comics need more gay heroes, only for it to become obvious you only included attractive gay characters in order to live out the your fantasies... instead of, say, discussing race issues within the homosexuality community—like how white gays treat black gays like shit—or how some Femininsts don't consider trans-Women "real women" (not that I think they're real women either, but this is still an issue that's worthy of discussion)... then you're just being disingenuous and pandering and should be called out about it.

    Problem is that most White Liberals like Dobson, who claim to be champions for marginalized people's rights, know just as little about marginalized communities and their issues as the Conservatives they shit on for being ignorant. And it shows big time in their writing. They should just stick to writing white characters.
     
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    Paradoxically I feel "diversity" is so overused to the point it's not even diverse, like a cliche. Fictional media doesn't need to politicized to match the standards of whatever is 'acceptable', which is a problem I see lately with SJW/tumblr type of media as opposed to using their own creative liberties. I thought with fiction, you are able to go beyond what's normal in real life as the story takes place in an imaginary world, be it realistic or not.

    It's also really annoying how people think in extremes as far as race, sex, religion, etc goes, I feel like what fleacoller said if you depict a character to be too accurate to the targeted race--it may seem too stereotypical and 2D, but then there's the depictions of races who are depicted completely inaccurately and don't even resemble their race culturally and everything, other than appearance maybe. Can there be more of a compromise of something in between maybe?
     
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    Something that really bugs me about this whole diversity/political correctness/what have you being injected into media just seems intellectually offensive. One of the largest reasons I've seen in support of it is that people who see this will assume that everyone in that group is like that, or that a scene will encourage bigotry (example: the one female in this movie is sexy, this means that all women have to be like this. The fat fuck got hit by a car, this will encourage people to run over the obese with cars in real life, etc).

    Think about that for a second. How much of an ass do you have to be to treat everyone as morons who can't distinguish fantasy from real life?
     
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    Diversity shouldn't be a device for your story (or to boost your social justice status) unless your story is about diversity/minorities.
    And if your story is about diversity and some minority, it should be about more than different races or orientations or you're ditching any potential for dynamics or realistic conflicts, any real in-depth diversity and conversation. Like a conservative gay character, a character who feels they have to choose between their religion or sexuality, an immigrant who is against illegal immigration, or some gay or trans character who turns out to be actually going through a phase and being straight/cis, who isn't a strawman but a real character that isn't treated like shit by the author.

    I mean. Comics like Assigned Male are such piles of bullshit
    - there are characters of different minorities but they're pretty much all mouth pieces for the author or just innocently ignorant so that the author can go on a rant and the characters will apologize/be shamed.
    There's one trans character who is "truscum"/transmedicalist (people who say you need dysphoria in order to be trans) and he's a strawman and gets shamed by the main character for "erasing his identity" (by wanting to pass and people to not know he is not cis) and not celebrating his transness and showing it in everyone's face.

    I think if dobson ever continues working on his actual story-based comics he'll go further into that sort of things instead of just having a diverse cast.
     
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    I haven't logged into Encyclopia Dramatica in over six million years, is Dobson more or less the same but with Trump REEEEEing?
     
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