Kiwi Farms Thread

Discussion in 'Hall of AEpic' started by uberfukken, Aug 8, 2015.

  1. LiterallyPhil

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    Don't be melodramatic. The only ones who would be "fucked" would be anyone stupid enough to:

    A) Register an account on that site using anything other than a throw away, self contained ID set.
    B) Actually did something other than shitpost. (IE Weened, stalked, harassed, or whatever)
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    C) Was dumb enough to "plan" or premeditate such behavior from "B" via PM's

    If you did any 2 of the 3 above against any of the main cows who are sufficiently motivated enough whimper at Vordrack for information should he actually end up with the database, then you deserve to be doxed by the very people you spent time weening over. The game works both ways.

    For the other 95% of the registered accounts there, no one give a flying fuck. Some IP's and throw away emails aren't shit and you're not going to be charged with anything for saying "So and so is ugly and they should kill themselves"

    Cause that's what 95% of the members did in a nutshell.
     
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    Huh?

    Regardless of how badly I think this whole thing has been handled, Vordrak's posse intends to make Null's mum's life hell if KF returns - even though that's not something over which Null's mum has any control.

    It's mafia-style bullshit of threatening to punish family back in the old country for someone's transgressions elsewhere.

    While Null's family had little recourse against the original bullshit which led to her being fired, there's no reason whatsoever why she should put up with bullying and harassment in the future from people against whom she does have recourse.

    Greta and Nina are probably the only cows who have legit reason to fear KF returning - the worst that's going to happen to Phil is that someone might send him another potato. There's no reason whatsoever why Null's mum should just meekly accept whatever harassment they send her way.
     
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    If Null were so deeply concerned about his family, he would go dark and hand off the site to someone who hasn't been doxed.

    What we're witnessing is someone desperate to stay in control.
     
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    lol. No one fears kiwifarms, getting sent a bunch of lefacetroll.jpeg on facebook does not stike fear in anybody.
     
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    I have just been involved in a discussion with several people

    I am not going to repost it because i dont feel like incriminating and implicating myself in a crime

    I believe that if Null brings KF back online someone intends to cause physical harm on his mother. He has already had at least one person come to his house to confront him so i am not taking this as an empty threat

    It would be good if someone can send this to Null as he has blocked me
     
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    Despite showing up to Null's house, I think Greta is all hot air and posturing. It takes more commitment to travel across the country to attack a man than threatening him on the internet.
     
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    This isn't greta, i dont even know who that is
     
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    I don't disagree with you about Null not wanting to surrender control of KF, but do you honestly think the harassment would stop if he handed it off? Vordrak said from the beginning that if it came back the harassment would continue and now Greta is saying it openly. Even if those two had an ounce of integrity between them (they don't, btw) and said they'd leave Null's mum alone, do you really think the rest of the autism army - the ones Vordrak claims manufactured the original "evidence" of her involvement in KF - will?

    That's true of 99.99% of cows. It's not true of Greta and Nina. KF is by far the best repository of information which can sink any chance Nina has of avoiding deportation, and that's not even taking into account the documentation of questionable use of TLL funds by Greta and Nina. The return of KF is potentially life-ruining for Greta and Nina.

    That said, there's no loyalty among the autistic Voltron. Vordrak doesn't care what happens to the others as long as he gets what he wants (he already threw Oliver and Eddie under a bus). The others are just useful idiots to him.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean by that statement.

    Greta isn't all hot air in posturing if they did exactly what they said they would do. That's is, in fact, the exact opposite of being full of hot air and posturing.
     
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    Going dark is the equivalent of falling off the planet. The trolling will stop when every attempt is met with zero response. Complete disconnection, no popping in or maintaining a presence anywhere online. I don't think he's capable of that, but it's the only thing he can do for his family if he actually gave a damn about them.
     
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    From what I saw from the Facebook caps has been nothing but posturing. I would think Greta would document those actions like when it got the RV or when Ninõr was ICE'd
     
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    She did. She posted all over her FB page about "visiting" Null and "having a talk with" his mother.

    It's her complete lack of impulse control which led to KF amassing the information she'd rather ICE not become aware of.

    I honestly have no idea whether he cares about them or not. "Throwing them under a bus" implies that he doesn't, but I'm not sure whether he just chose his words poorly.

    I don't think Null going dark and handing off the forums will stop the harassment of his family, but I doubt merely keeping the site down will either. These are not sane, rational people.

    Back when it was CWCki forums, it wouldn't accept registrations from services like Hushmail (I don't think it liked web-based email addresses in general back then).

    That said, gathering publicly available information is not an offence in and of itself so you're correct when you say that even if people's real life identities did somehow become known there would be as few consequences for Kiwis in general as there have been for lolcows in general.
     
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    If Null thought Vordrak and his cronies would ever stop the harassment, he's retarded or delusional. Vordy literally has nothing better to do than stalk people online and harass people IRL.

    I have no idea why his folks haven't taken legal action against Vordy, as he's stepped into harassment/slander territory at minimum.


    But yeah, he's not gonna let anyone else host the Farms and it's sad. For all its faults (And yeah, there were tons), it was still a community that created a lot of content, documented a lot of drama, and entertained a lot of people.

    The fact that Null would rather let all that die than let others host it is a damn shame.



    That said, ED was around before KF, will be around long after KF, and most Kiwis have pretty painlessly migrated over.

    So despite all the "LOL KILL URSELF KIWI FAG" I'll get as a response, I'd like to say thanks to all you guys running this place for welcoming us here. You've got a solid community.
     
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    So what? It takes 5 mins to set up an email account anywhere with any service.

    Unless you planned on soliciting murder for hire, trading child porn or some other dumb ass shit, Hotmail, Gmail or whatever isn't going to provide any more information about an email account set up and used once than an admin would get looking at access logs on the site's back end.
     
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    Defamation actions in the US are extremely costly to pursue and extremely difficult to win and international actions even moreso. Even if Null's family had the money to mount a long, drawn out legal action it's unlikely that any of the cows involved have the money to pay a judgement against them so it would be a pyrrhic victory.

    Vordrak saying that Oliver and Eddie did it isn't evidence. Oliver isn't even located in the US. How much time do you think law enforcement are going to spend trying to find evidence that someone in another country faked evidence and cause someone to lose their job? They have hundreds of cases of harassment in their own jurisdictions on the go at any given time, with evidence easily available. And let's not forget that Tor was used when the terror threat to the school was sent (and presumably the one to the hospital). There's no reason to believe it wasn't used in the campaign to smear Null's mum.
     
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    What will happen is your IP/sign up email will be dropped in a massive dump. This happened to us once, but it was because of a hacker and our uncrackable password niggers1
     
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    Haha yeah talking about that....didn't someone from Baph break into the KF servers right before it went down?

    Didnt null keep payment details on there too?
     
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    IP is useless and even apparently "real" email addresses can be misleading. I could use a [email protected] to register everywhere if I wanted. And ain't no ISP going to disclose the identity of the account holder (which still doesn't disclose the identity of the user) without a subpoena related to serious legal action.

    It wasn't /baph/ and that was painfully obvious. And it was the lolcow email server.
     
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    Those court orders only come around for serious crimes.

    Not for being a meanie poopy head who talks shit about transfolk on the internet.
     
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    Holy shit

    January 21st the KF email server was hacked

    Null is currently refusing to answer if he did or did not have people card details saved on the KF servers

    Are we sure they havent also been compromised
     
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