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  1. jerk

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    The pages are also really stiff and filled with the trademark nothingness. In addition to drawing thumbnails for chapters to work on pacing he should focus on how fluid and dynamic individual pages are on their own. Maybe just making rough sketches of scenes, and then framing them so that they'd work as panels and adding (or removing) more panels if needed - instead of just sketching a page straight (which he seems to be doing). Simple, very basic method but it gets overlooked a lot.
    He probably works too mechanically (& straightforwardly) and doesn't dare to step outside his comfort zone in fear of messing up his schedule due to some mistakes.
     
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    Personally, I like to write multiple rough drafts for a story. Once I've got a draft I'm happy with, I'll start outlining the entirety of the comic for myself. It gives me a chance to practice and get used to the characters, how they move, and the settings they inhabit. As I go along, I'll be organizing the sketches into little thumbnails of what each finished page ought to look like, where I'll determine paneling and flow. Once the outline's done, I'll make reference sheets for myself, so I can keep better track of each character's proportions and color scheme. Then I'll start making the actual comic.

    It can be a lengthy process, but it saves me a lot of trouble in the long-run. Joseco should consider doing something similar.
     
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    But why do more work now to lessen the entire load a good bit when you can just do shit to begin with and end up doing a lot more work by the time you're done (milking your patreon)
     
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    "Hennah"? As in the goddamn dye? Why are you drinking dye, you stupid bitch?

    I know it's supposed to be alcohol, but for fuck's sake.

    And what the hell is up with Sienna's arm? Am I the only one who thinks that looks way off?
     
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    Why would I ever think that something interesting would ever happen in this. What was I thinking, giving Joseco enough credit that he would introduce a new character in a way that would actually leave an impression on us?
     
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    The third panel. What is happening with the bear/mouse's arm.

    Why's Kessah's immediate group of people instantly so nice to her. Yeah, some people are easy to like, but there's nothing about her people in general would be specifically fond of.
    The random haters make it even worse because their existence gives potential for interesting conflicts between Kessah and other characters, but the potential is wasted on nothingness.

    She's the blandest mary sue I can think of.
     
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    Fucking snout.

    How long until this just devolves into furfaggotry?
     
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    TenKin- the shit stained bear. Fuck my life....
     
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    When do they fuk
     
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    She hardly qualifies as anthro, this is just a painted human with bear/dog fittings glued on.
     
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    Is it just me or why does literally every name we get introduced sound so awkward? Like they don't sound right/don't belong there idk how to explain
    It is extra confusing with names that almost sound like something in the real world (like that hennah and lord mother shit) and the rest of them sound like joseco just smashed his keyboard and added some vowels between letters
     
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    If I had to guess it'd be like a scenario where you watch some anime or medieval fantasy, look at the names and just try to make it sound anime or medieval, but I guess there's more to a name than that.
     
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    Look at those tufts on her chest and elbows. She's a furry, just "soft" anthro.

    Indeed. In most cultures, names follow an unconscious theme. In English, male names usually end in a hard consonant, often an N-sound (John, Martin, Ethan, though exceptions like Joe exist). Female names, on the other hand, tend more toward vowel endings (Rebecca, Sarah, Emily, though again exceptions like Amber exist).

    This is a convention most native speakers are subconciously aware of, which is why the boy named Stacy gets odd looks. And unless you let your audience know you'll be changing this convention up, names like Tenkin on a girl sound strange. Not to mention Tenkin is two hard consonants smashed right up to each other, making it awkward to get out of the mouth. The Japanese get around this by doubling one consonant (Tennin), or softing another (Tengin).

    Because it can be hard to come up with a naming convention that sounds natural, most authors just pick an actual culture and rip names from that. Even Game of Thrones does this, ripping mostly from Old English.
     
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    I thought it's just simply Ten-kin (the -nk- would be same as in "Anka").
    To me it's easy to pronounce (probably because of my native language) - if I'm even pronouncing it correctly.
    But it still sounds stupid. Like some throw-away character from dragon ball.
     
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    The fact everything goes to a standstill because, say, dude's running off to some con really goes to show that he should have some pages on backup so he can still put something out rather than have everyone hanging on nothing knowing full well the next page is going to be nothing

    for some reason I'm actually put off by not being able to read the next page.. Maybe I just want to see this be good or get better
     
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    We return to our regularly scheduled broadcast of nothingness.
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    This bear person is probably going to be the first to be tossed into the meat grinder when they get sent on their first mission.
     
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    I swear to god at least one person in bearwoman's group needs to have some kind of repressed hate or something for wolfsister that they take out on Kessah.
     
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    JohnJ: "HOLY FUCK THATS A GREAT IDEA!" *Adds randomly to script*
     
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    Whatta way to end the chapter.
    And so ends what is probably the 4th or 5th day of Kessah's journey since she met Adrien. Over 2 years. And 4-5 days.
     
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    "I just remembered that because im a fox-wolf-doggy-kin shit that im nocturnal therefore I dont need to sleep at night. Fuck....."
     
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    This could be a great chance to start a new chapter straight in the training thing but instead it's probably going to be like Kessah waking up dead tired or being late again and then we get another 5 pages of her just walking the hallways, maybe with the bear girl who shows where she needs to go
     
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    Oh no, I just remembered that mundane situations are happening constantly in this comic full of "action."
     
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    This really needed to be released on the regular scheduled release date instead of being put out with the last one with the amount it accomplished.

    /sarcasm
     
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    how has there not been a goddamned thing for almost a week

    o wait, we just wasted everyone's time and called this fucking thing an update

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    Like, could you seriously not also release an actual page or did you just draw this out and go "yep, fuck it I'm done now. This definitely constitutes as an update and my patreon donors won't get pissed about this nope"

    EDIT: though Imma be honest, I can dig how this looks
     
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    Those stubby feet bother me like hell.
     
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    Stubby feet and lack of calves with zika heads.
     
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    Boy am I excited for another totally pointless chapter.
     
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