God Rains on Atheist Parade

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What is your belief in God?

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  2. Atheist

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    WASHINGTON, D.C.--No thunderbolts fell on the atheists gathered on the National Mall Saturday afternoon for the Reason Rally--just scattered showers that probably kept some otherwise loud-and-proud non-believers home. The thousands who did brave the drizzle were enough to loosely pack an area of the mall the size of a city block, where they were treated to the full range of what you might call the free-thinker movement: a poet delivered an obscenity-laced polemic that he wrote "in a fever dream, in all caps"; a former pastor played a few Mr. Rogers-style songs about how atheists are friendly; and biologist Richard Dawkins headlined. There was also a video tribute to the late Christopher Hitchens.

    The crux of the message was similar to that of any disenfranchised group--that atheists are here, they vote, and they want respect. Many of the speakers borrowed language and ideas from the gay rights movement, describing how "coming out" as a non-believer can alienate one from one's family and provoke discrimination. One attendee even held a colorful a sign that read, "Atheism: It's like being gay in the 80's."

    But the rally seemed to lack energy as an often incongruous procession of activists--with the Washington Monument as their backdrop--tried to fire up a sea of umbrellas. "Sometimes it's tough, since these are calm, reasonable people," observed Isaac Bowen, a freshman at the University of Michigan who had arrived by bus that morning with a few dozen other members of the secular student alliance.

    But those speakers who did take a more aggressive, impassioned approach ("Welcome to Rick Santorum's worst God-damn nightmare," one speaker declared) rubbed other attendees the wrong way.

    "We're not all vulgar," said Rachel Jaffe, a librarian at the University of Binghamton in town for a conference. Jaffe said she was pleased to see so many families in attendance, but was surprised some parents were letting their children listen.

    Organizers had cordoned off a wide triangular area for protesters, but by 1 p.m., the only person in the protest pen was a young man promising that heretics would be devoured by Cthulhu, a fictional deity in H.P. Lovecraft novels.

    Closer to the stage, a small group of Christian activists held a largely cordial counter-rally. Mark Sasse, a member of Buffalo's Bible Believer Baptist Church, carried a sign that read, "The wicked shall be turned into hell and all the nations that forget God." He soon found himself debating the meaning of a passage in Luke with one of the attendees. (Full disclosure: In a brief violation of reporting ethics, a Yahoo News reporter held Sasse's sign stable for him while he got his Bible out of his backpack.)

    "Most people have been quite courteous," Sasse said. "I just want to let people know there's hope."
    While organizers claimed a crowd of at least 20,000, it was difficult to estimate as people came and went, sometimes dipping into a museum or retreating to the long lines at the concession stand. For all the emphasis on free inquiry, few seemed to notice that the line across the Mall, by the Merry-Go-Round, was much shorter.
     
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    @oddguy, moderate plz so it is displayed publicly :)
     
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    the devout atheists are just as crazy as the devout catholics, truly intelligent people don't give a fuck because they know that nobody really knows what's really going on.
     
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    Most non-believers just study science.
     
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    "Atheism: It's like being gay in the 80's." lol
     
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    Science, damn you!!!!

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    i'm a buddhist.. i don't believe in god.
     
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    Buddhist beliefs are agnostic toward a God.
     
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    Then what do you think Dharma and Samsara is?
     
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    Buddhism contains many of the Hindu gods, just as "spiritual beings" instead of gods.
     
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    the way to live & conduct yourself
     
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    Then there are the Divas, but nevermind. Buddist are not to think eitherway about it because it is a "worthless question" (i.e. it doesn't matter).

    Moar like, "I'm a hipster and instead of being atheist, I'll say I'm a Buddhist, because that's really cool" amirite? Just come out and say "I'm a scientoligist".
     
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    you know what? fuck it. I'll just let Asura's fists do the talking
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    Trixie works in a library and is old enough to be you mom, not so hipster.
     
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    Samsara and Dharma are not the way to conduct yourself. It is "The System" or "Law of Being" it is the Wheel of Life, the Swastika, the same shape our galaxy forms.
     
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    Dammit!!! I was going to use the following Pics:

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    I've been an atheist for quite awhile now, and I generally keep my beliefs to myself unless I'm trying to start a flame war. People in my class were polling for beliefs (this is a higher level World History course) and I believe I was the only one who said they were an atheist. Oh well.
     
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    Anyone who thinks Buddhism isn't a religion or has no God doesn't know what Buddhism is about.
     
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    thank you... i'm hardly hip...
    i'm still a n00b @ it....
    but i do know some of the rules.
     
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    Buddhism can have a god, depending on the sect. Didn't the Buddha himself say that he was not a god, and didn't wish to be treated as one?
    I know in sects of Hinduism he's treated as the 10th (?) reincarnation of one of the main gods.
     
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    Only one god in Hinduism, sport.
     
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    Certain sects of Buddhism believe in Brahman which is the Supreme Being or All of Reality. The concept of Brahman is universal, it exists in the Abrahamic religions, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, and numerous esoteric doctrines (like Hermeticism) and this Supreme Being is pretty much defined as the same thing in all of them. If there is any one universal trait in all the large religions that have ever existed, it is this belief in this One Supreme Being. And it isn't simply at that either, but many of the qualities associated with this being are also universal. Makes you think, doesn't it?
     
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    Ah. I learned it wrong then. "Dualistic schools (see Dvaita and Bhakti) understand Brahman as a Supreme Being who possesses personality, and they worship him or her thus, as Vishnu, Brahma, Shiva, or Shakti, depending upon the sect"
     
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    Not really. Gods are defined as being all powerful, plus humans are VERY unorginal in most cases. I view the similarities as just people changing aspects of a religion and calling it a new one (see Islam).
    I remember reading an article about why a god is how he/she/it is.
     
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    All incarnations Brahman.
     
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    Yeah, I never really grasped that concept. After learning Greek, Roman, and Buddhism, I didn't really put my heart into learning Hinduism.
     
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    Where's Weev's vote?
    GodJesus needs his sole True Believer to represent.
     
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    It is worth looking into, if your are at all interested collective conscience and spiritual phenomena.