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Discussion in 'Video Games & Weeaboo Shit' started by Infamous, Jul 17, 2011.
@Sugar Bombs No, the example I listed was the funniest. Clearly.
I win bitches.
You were almost there.
lolno, the joke was just obvious and sophomoric, giant fuck bots? That's classic and original. What can you expect though, out of an uneducated piece of shit dyke like yourself.
Take some of these and try again later.
I would, except I'm already at INT 10, and they'd have no effect.
You're right. I think what you're lacking is probably charisma.
10 across the board. Silly sugar bombs, girls can't game for shit.
Unarmed, Explosives, and Speech.
All day, er'ry day.
It's hard to keep track of all my recipes and know how to play games too
Bull-fucking-shit. You're five across the board. Six, at best.
Don't be a silly goose. Perfect 10s.
I didn't appreciate the true genius of Caesar until now. I looked at FNV from an economic point of view and realised that the NCR is fucking itself over. It has an army of worthless conscripts yet is determined to supply each and every one of them with a working weapon, ammo and armour. That's a logistical nightmare, especially when your only major source of weapons and ammo is a middle-man merchant family that can't keep up with demand. On the opposite end you have Caesar's Legion which supplies its soldiers with makeshift machetes, spears, sledgehammers and other melee weapons that don't require ammo. (Under idealogical guise, of course.) THAT is why Caesar's Legion has taken so much ground.
@HeliosOne Do you remember the Simpsons episode where Burns gets a casino?
yeah Mr Burns character is based on Howard Huges kinda the real life Mr House
Let's try that again, shall we?
@HeliosOne Do you remember the Simpsons episode where Burns gets a casino?
yeah I do remember that episode
Did you notice the similarities between Burns and House? That's because they (plus Andrew Ryan and many more fictional characters) are based on one Howard Hughes, a famous billionaire entrepreneur who not only defined the art deco and noir eras but practically created them. He has also become the poster boy of the dreaded idle rich despite, you know, not being idle. The more you know, huh?
too bad FDR didnt have the charm and charisma of president Eden
Are you sure? He got away with some pretty weird and fucked up shit. Hell, he's the major reason all power rests with the executive and judicial branches these days. He was America's Augustus and like Augustus he fucked up his nation beyond recognition.
But only because they could assimilate tribes that bought Caesars BS about being the real Caesar. All it took was a single courier and his retro-agenda came tumbling down.
What are you talking about? Caesar forcibly assimilated tribals. Without the involvement of the Courier the Legion would've won the Second Battle of Hoover Dam which would've caused (for some reason) the desperate exodus of the NCR from Nevada as well as the Legion turning New Vegas into their capital. At that point the Legion would've either turned on itself (due to having no enemy to fight against) or would've ventured westward. Which would've spread their war to Zion, the Divide and the Long 15. Considering that Boone was able to be a really efficient guerilla in one of the Legion victory endings I imagine that the Legion would've had trouble holding onto to Nevada regardless of its victories. (Under Casear large chunks of Nevada remain outside of Legion control and under Lanius the Legion loses hundreds of soldiers for patches of dirt.) All in all, the choice the Courier makes would've resulted in an independent Nevada regardless. The real choice lies in who ends up dying and when independence is achieved.
Not only forcibly assimilated tribals. Because some tribals actually bought the BS about him being the real Caesar. I've read no developer's manual. But if you put two and two together you realize that the reason the tribals buy it is because of residual but misunderstood pre-apocalypse knowledge about the roman empire.* For the NCR that at least strives to know more about the old world, the Legion is just a bunch of weirdos in skirts.
And if the Legion actually made its way to the heart of the NCR, they would be slaughtered. Because of a higher number and density of enemies (and even if the NCR did follow some sort Geneva convention regarding civilian resistance movement, the police and military would probably look the other way when civilians are taking potshots at legionaries from the comforts of their own homes).
AFAIK, there's no production of firearms. And there's no real support weapons in the game. (No, it doesn't count if you can fire the weapon while carrying it. Tripod or it's not a real support weapon.) But you don't need space age rifles like the M-16 in order to defend against charging mau-maus. As a matter of fact, older and stronger is better. A few crews using Gatling guns (1861) or Vickers guns (1912) loaded with dum-dum bullets are perfect for stationary defense.
Cartridges are produced in an artisan way (the Courier does it all the time). But in the heart of NCR, there's probably real factories with production of new cases. So from that, it's a small step to step up to fire arms production. Especially early industrial revolution fire arms.
The NCR also has railways, so even if they lose New Vegas to the Legion, they still has a better infrastructure that helps them in building better border defenses.
*) Christianity is known and practiced, albeit the only who does it in an organized fashion are the mormons.
A tourist in New Vegas is gawking about how beautiful the cities must've been for a thousand years ago.
So it wouldn't be that strange if tribals has an idea about how some Khayzhaar in the past killed the savior of the world. And now the same killer shows up.
yeah its implied in the game that if they are in equal terms against the Legion in the battle for hoover dam is because they spreaded too far to the East with not enough resources to hold firmly a position in the east also a defeat in Nevada will only carry political consequences like Kimball's resignation but the safety of the NCR was never been put in jeopardy by that band of savages
@Web v1.0 @HeliosOne The goal of the Legion was never to venture into the NCR heartland but to establish itself in New Vegas. (If they demanded a cut from all profits made and otherwise kept the casinos unmolested then they'd soon have enough money to rival the NCR's.) Apart from that, the only organised factories under the NCR control are those that make armour. All their weapons come from merchants who either produce them or buy them from those that produce them. The Legion's strategies cannot be defended against with long-range weapons because they're trained to not engage the enemy until they're close enough to charge them. Apart from that, if the Legion were threatened with overwhelming firepower then they'd just use their Frumentarii more often.
the problem with this is that you are looking at Caesar's Legion looking to find the Legions of Rome, but they're nothing than a nomadic horde that works as an ocupation army, they don't have a long term plan for New Vegas neither they cant hold a city for much time, they dont have a social base either, the only reason their rule is strong in the Colorado is because there are no strong enough factions that challenge their power, the only thing that plays in their favor is the long distance between New Vegas and NCR main territory but even with those odds they got destroyed in Boulder City
Did you really sided with the Legion? I thought the best option for New Vegas was Mr House they dont even know how to use Helios One much less Hoover Dam
I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about ancient comparisons than you do. In any case Caesar sees the Legion as Julius Caesar's 10th Legion (he even uses its symbol on their flag) as they crossed the Rubicon. Even though Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with the 13th Legion but whatever. As the 13th Legion was no longer an official legion of Rome at that point it was technically a nomadic army, which were fairly common in the ancient world. Oh and Caesar's Legion isn't nomadic. They have permanent cities, towns and bases. Caesar's claim of leading a nomadic army is a euphemism for their generally aimless endeavour before taking New Vegas and establishing a regional superpower.
As far as their strategies and military is concerned, Caesar's Legion (like the Romans of yesterday) are flexible and adaptive. That's one of their main strengths. Yes, they get cocky sometimes but they learn from their mistakes.
Once. Just to see their ending. I agree that House is best for Humanity (if forced to pick between the three) but that man's too powerhungry and paranoid. If he were to ascend then several groups, like the Brotherhood of Steel and the Kings, would be completely wiped out and most technological development would be at his mercy because he's syphoning most of the money and electricity (thus resources in general) in the region.
In many ways Caesar and I share opinions on certain matters. I also share many opinions with House and Kimball. (Not to mention antagonists from the DLCs.) However, I believe in a grand coalition of forces. Such a coalition would be prepared for anything and, after a while, they can be gradually merged into a single force. Such an army is worth any compromise.