FACT: everything is an opinion.

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  1. Weezus Christ

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    those annoying atheist faggots that try to embellish a bunch of scientific jargon as fact such as the
    age of the earth, etc. were doing their anti-religion thing and slandering them as 'believers'

    so i said 'so did you carbon date the earth and prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that it is absolutely infalliable?'

    No.

    'Then you you have an opinion. you BELIEVE the popular opinion about the world as fact.'

    then i got 'well i have critical thinking skills, other people studied it'

    once again i said 'you believed them. you did no research. you have no proof. where is your evidence?'

    this caused the most massive frenzy of butthurt and rage ive ever seen in my life.


    now im not trying to start a religious debate here, but before you state something as irrefutable
    i think you should actually know beyond any argument ANYONE can make that you are correct.

    facts are always beliefs but beliefs are not always facts.

    you can tell me all day long that the moon landing happened. you could tell me the shit i saw on
    tv was real. that that shit in the sky was a UFO or that jews never even glanced at the twin towers.

    the fact is, that while i may believe some things, or hell, maybe everything on earth in unison can
    believe in them... thats still a belief.

    for all i know im strapped to a gurney being wheeled to the emergency room in a flashback and
    i never wrote this at all. fuck that. maybe computers dont even exist and im in some time warp
    as my soul is leaving its body living a million lives simultaneously in my own head. maybe everyone

    maybe the sky is an lcd and humans are genetically altered hybrids who have been fed false
    science via an intentionally stunted vocabulary that doesnt afford thought patterns necessary
    for advancement in any real science.

    my point is that what you believe is fact is just your opinion.

    fuck the facts. concentrate on the ideas.
     
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    Moreover [Tru dat. {[(In fact, that's just an opinion.) This is my opinion. In fact.] Just saying. Objetively.} Perhaps.]

    Fact: U must start reading the bold part.
     
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    EXACTLY

    even the fact of everything being an opinion is an opinion. yugh

    first rule is there is no first rule.
     
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    although one could easily argue every opinion is a fact and win.
     
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    Gravity is just an opinion too, right?
     
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    It is, and everyone and everything agree with it.

    I'm a post-modern fucktard btw.
     
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    Tell that to the fucking retards at Gamefags.com, every discussion is about them "valid points" and "shocking: opinions =/= facts" over and over again, they don't even know what they're talking about. So easy to troll.
     
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    I can't tell if OP is ironic. Better lurk more.
     
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    what if you actually know what you're talking about?
     
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    You're absolutely right.
     
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    there are plenty of alternative gravity theories.

    however you are missing the forest for the trees.


    then its a fact.

    FOR YOU.
     
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    I know what you're saying. You don't absolutely know that your own existance exists, or that existance itself exists, or that you are dreaming/ tripping balls right now or that your thoughts are being controlled by yourself in the future to give yourself better prospects. You just don't fucking know, and that means you can't trust your own judgment of reality, assuming it exists.

    But assuming that's not the case, which is probably a good idea until further notice, 2 + 2 is always going to equal 4. That's not an opinion. Telling me otherwise because i might not exist sounds like a terrible backdoor to escape out of when someone rams a massive cock into the tender anus of one's failed argument.

    just sayin
     
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    math is religion.

    2 + 2 = 0
     
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    You have two Pokemon cards, your friend gives you two Pokemon cards. How many Pokemon cards do you have?
     
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    eepaa...u just went full retard there, mate

    2+2=4 is not a question of external coherence, and thus vulnerable to the solipsistic argument, and then arguably a matter of faith..., is a question of internal coherence.
    If in your mental world 2+2 =/= 4, you are not refering to the proper mathematical concept of 2, neither 4

    Of course, if you want to call penis the automobiles, you could buy a bus and say you crossed the americas raiding a really big cock...but that's a semantic joke, not a deep phylosofical point, I'm afraid

    And talking about solipsism, unless you go totally for it, in which case you aren't disscussing but fapping, you must concede there is an external reality not entirely interpretable only by faith...is the old mental experiment of the evil demon/brain in a jar

    All this has been done to death...
     
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    Any fucking way. We use words like "facts" as convenient approximations, because existential accuracy is both unobtainable and really, really time consuming. 99.6% scientific consensus on the Theory of Evolution makes it about as factual to me as the physics homework I keep putting off.
     
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    i realized all of this without having you explain it to me.
     
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    i dont play pokemon because i am not a faggot

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    even numbers can be considered to be abstract concepts, things which living things invented in order to make the universe easier to understand.
    I don't agree, but some could say that.

    but I DO feel that things like "spoon" and "bed" are purely abstract. what's actually THERE is a fuckton of atoms, the concepts we associate with them have nothing to do with it.
     
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    The point is, either way 2+2=4. There's no escape to that. One of the very few things we can take for sure
     
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    yes. that is true. if it isn't, then god help us.
     
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    2+2 can equal 5, 3, 4, or even zero. Or all of the above at the same time. Doublethink.
     
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    fact: 2 + 2 = whatever I want it to when I have a gun in your face.
     
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    the universe, at least based on our observations so far, appears to be fundamentally mathematical in nature. as such, 2+2 will always equal 4

    a person can say that it is otherwise, but they will not be correct in saying so.
     
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    2 + 2 = 0

    numbers are lies and dont exist. they are abstract concepts. thats why you can never reach the last number of pi.
     
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    my tar baby can take all your punches because when you stare into the black all you see is nigger.

    nigger is all your mind can comprehend.