Drunk Driving in France.... REALLY!?!?!?

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  1. Trixie

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    "This is most evident on our roads, where even in first world countries with low road tolls, alcohol still accounts for between a third and a half of road deaths. Now France is to attempt a novel solution - from July of this year, it will become law in France to have a working breathalyzer in every car on the road, with enforcement beginning November 1.
    It may sound extreme, but the world is fast running out of tolerance for the massive global road toll in general and the part of the road toll directly related to alcohol in particular.
    A 2006 report entitled Alcohol in Europe by Anderson and Baumberg estimated the cost of alcohol-related harm to the EU's economy at EUR125 billion in 2003. At the time, that was the equivalent of 1.3% of GDP for the entire Union. That's a high price to pay, particularly if alcohol is not your poison of choice.
    The total was derived by including all factors, including losses due to under performance at work, absenteeism, premature death ... not just road deaths.
    This article focuses on drink driving - the part of the road toll which would disappear if people did not drink alcohol then drive cars. In the broader context of suitable drugs to legalise for public consumption, it must be said that alcohol is the least suitable of all drugs as more harm is done to others than to the user.
    Check out this remarkable insight into scientific research done into the real harm drugs
    cause, done without the meddling of Government and the alcohol lobby."

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    ALSO:
    "Police will begin issuing fines in France from the beginning of November, and it's interesting that the required "kit" includes not just a working breathalyzer, but a range of accessories that we should, as good citizens, always carry on board a car anyway: a first aid kit, fire extinguisher and and spare bulbs for both headlights and blinkers.
    Also compulsory fare will be a warning triangle and a fluorescent safety vest carried inside the car for every vehicle occupant. Failure to comply will cost another EUR90.
    Last month, the French authorities also introduced a new law banning satellite navigation systems that show the location of speed cameras, and are apparently very keen on plans to track speeding vehicles by satellite."

    the next thing you know
    they want us to have in our cars is
    rocket jet packs....
    hell, if we had those we wouldn't need a frickin' car in the first place.


    more info & cool graphs:
    http://www.gizmag.com/france-breathalyzer-legislation/21541/
     
  2. I_Cant

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    basically, a bunch of shit everybody knows already except for the people who make laws
     
  3. Gregor

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    Oh they KNOW all right.
     
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    People need to sack up.

    If everyone drove drunk then we'd all be fine - drunks never get hurt, and the piss takes the edge of if you bang your head, or if the airbag deploying smashes your iPhone into you throat because you were drunk texting instead of paying attention to the blurry visage that is the road ahead.
     
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    Since when does cannabis cause harm?
     
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    you drive too slow to hurt anybody on weed.
     
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    They can't really prove legally that the driver was stoned while driving, unless he admits it out of his own mouth on tape or something. Also I drove so fucking stoned today, and I was blasting the classical music channel on the radio, and I felt like I was escorting royalty on a horse drawn carriage or some shit
     
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    I am on buprenorphine, which has a harm score of 7. That is pretty low. Equal to LSD and a little worse for you than Mushrooms. Much better for you than ecstasy and anabolic steroids, so that's probably good.

    Methamphetamine has a surprisingly low "harm to others" rate, don't you think?
     
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    As clearly indicated by the chart, cannabis causes 20 harm. You are better served with psilocybin, as it only causes 6 harm.

    As always, psychedelics are the safest of drugs.
     
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    how cannabis is all the way at fuckin' twenty is beyond me. I guess this means 'roids are healthier or some shit. @DGTrixie, what exactly were the factors in making this chart, exactly?
     
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    "Multicriteria" apparently.
     
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    ["k, ost: 200216, member: 1514"]As clearly indicated by the chart, cannabis causes 20 harm. You are better served with psilocybin, as it only causes 6 harm.

    As always, psychedelics are the safest of drugs.[/quote]
    Im 90% sure this chart came straight out of some college dropout's ass, but that part is true at least. Shrooms are also 100% impossible to become addicted to, because frequent use actually builds up a temporary immunity.
     
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    Lol I remember the US looked at this, they said that including breathalizers in cars would actually CAUSE more accidents than it saved. This is fucking nanny culture working overtime. I'm glad this shit wouldn't fly over here. I swear this is a war on personal ownership. Its not just YOUR CAR its your fucking SOCIAL PRODUCTIVITY CONVEYANCE. Now people have to keep a poncy vest, fire extinguishers and a farkin BREATHALIZER. I hope its not one of those ones that asks you to blow into it every so often, because those shits are acutally dangerous. Not to mention they cost money to upkeep.

    I don't think its fair to say alcohol is causing the 125 billion loss, its more like human nature.
     
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    Cant wait for my 9 hour drive through france this summer
     
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    Its patronizing is what it is. "Oh look at the lower orders and their drink, how uncivilized". It doesn't help France is already a corrupt-pseudodemocracy anyway.
     
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    Pretty much

    "cannabis is half as damaging as crack, and more damaging to others than anfetamine"...LOL

    Althoug if they are refering to driving under the influence, I'd say that psychedelics are pretty dangerous
     
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    Wow, it took me a while to find the relevant information:

    The study was conducted using a data modeling process called multicriteria decision analysis (MDA). As part of this, a scoring system from 1 to 100 (100 most harmful) was used to consider the effects on individuals and to other people. 16 different criteria were used in total, nine relating to the impact on an individual and seven on other people. These criteria were then weighted according to the relative impact overall.

    The harms to the individual were:
    • drug-specific mortality
    • drug-related mortality
    • drug-specific damage
    • drug-related damage
    • dependence
    • drug-specific impairment of mental functioning
    • drug-related impairment of mental functioning
    • loss of tangibles (income, housing, job etc)
    • loss of relationships
    The harms to others were:
    • injury
    • crime
    • environmental damage
    • family adversities
    • international damage
    • economic cost
    • community
    Now, I'd love to see an explanation on how cannabis scored 20 and 9 acording with that criteria

    Another interesting point is that the scores aren't percentual, and that mean that those scores are supposed to assess the overall damage: Eg in USA there were around 200.000 mostly sporadic users of Ketamine in 2006, and around 190.000.000 of alcoholic beverages, one third of them regular...

    So in a rough estimate, the proportion is like X10.000 more overall use of alcohol (and I'm being very conservative...)

    So I guess that 15 harm ratio for ketamine turns into 150.000 when weighted...

    rolf

    Bottom line: THIS IS A ENORMOUS PILE OF SHIT
     
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    I think there is one thing we can all agree on: yank maggot's driver's license.
     
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    Lol...but I never drive drunk nor stoned nor tripping. I like life.
     
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    please stop lying.
     
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    oh, ok

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    stop. lying.
     
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    I just conceded the point, mate. What more do you want?

    Ur confusing me, I want revenge...

    watch=BQSKsDV5xKI.
     
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