So, maybe this is a controversial topic in a forum of such distinguished cybercriminals such as yourself, but I'm rather annoyed because I have to spend today combing over my computer. Why? Because my grandma's email got compromised. Now I'm not CERTAIN I got anything, it looks like a drive-by-download type attack aimed at directing people to a spam pharmaceutical company, but nonetheless, I am a careful bear and doing a number of scans and registry checks. The more I think about internet/identity crime, the more ridiculous it gets. You have tens of thousands of people trying to constantly claw their way into your pockets. On the individual level you have spammers, phishers, hackers, and identity thieves, most of whom can be combatted by common sense and anti-virus tools, but the number of weak spots is ludicrous. When you use your card, the machine you are operating could have been bugged by someone. Maybe your security is fine, but not that of the website you visited. Maybe your bank is a moron and stores your information poorly. Maybe some credit card company you've never heard of is moronic enough to issue a credit card to someone who pulled your name off a long list. Maybe your work computer got fucked by somebody else on the network. Or maybe like me, your relatives are stupid and do things that compromise you. The point is, the avenues you would have to keep track of to be totally protected are STAGGERING. And you just know there are any number of fuckwits, mostly in russia in china, but also in the US, who make a living off being a total pain in the ass. I know we're all for internet freedom and such, but its getting stupid. Its not paranoia either, every single one of us has encountered a virus at some time or another, even if we weren't affected by it. For companies, I read that the average one comes under cyberattack 80,000 times a day. Even top secret air gapped stuff like iranian centrifuges and america drones are getting fucked constantly, because all it takes is one moron, or one guy who just isn't as good as the hacker. I know many of you are fans of lulzec and their activities sticking it to huge companies, but at the end of the day how much personal inconvenience are you willing to tolerate for the amusement? So what do you guys think? Should we hunt down cyber criminals and beat them with clubs, or do we all need to hunker down in our unix bunkers and perform bi-weekly credit checks to make sure no one has stolen our identity?