Dividing by Zero

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  1. uberfukken

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    I am here to initiate an intellectual debate on the subjects of international trade, Western sociocultural influence, and the advancement of aspergian science.

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    I feel that free trade is a theoretical fantasy that when put in practice only brings out the worst in man. Without regulation, greed and manipulation rule supreme.

    I also feel that the following countries are US puppet states: Australia, Japan, the UK, South Korea, Israel, and Canada. By "puppet state" I mean that we have direct control over their (your) military.

    Discuss.
     
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    I agree with OP.

    Also I think the reason why they give vaccine injections that result in autism, sometimes, is because it really is an experiment in human evolution and eugenics. But the only way they can do such a proper experiment is by giving millions of children shots all over the world.
     
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    Vaccinations have absolutely nothing to do with autism even in the slightest. Most instances of perceived autism are largely the product of piss poor parenting, the "anti-abortion" attitude (to the point of using medical science to override otherwise natural abortions), obese pregnancies, older pregnancies and cumulative/generational level genetic damage, often as a byproduct of multiple generations of older/fat/unhealthy pregnancies, piss poor lifestyle choices and, again, medical science screwing with the natural order.

    Human greed, for the most part, is a NATURAL aspect of humanity and is largely an evolutionary survival trait. Even if you enact policies, procedures, laws and the like to try and curb or otherwise prevent such wanton greed...it doesn't solve the actual underlying problem and such forms will simply be manipulated and hacked by the smartest and the greediest of the human race. Which is what has happened countless times over the centuries. Occasionally the greed builds itself up to such a spectacular degree that it nearly destroys the entire system itself (usually whenever there's a resulting depression/recession).

    You might liken it to the "war on drugs". The reason the "war" failed was because it didn't solve or address the underlying problem...of addiction. Rather than attempt to treat the source, the reasons that create and incur addiction, it went after the methods and means of satiating that addiction, which just made everything exponentially worse.

    We cut off mass supplies of cocaine, so then people resorted to the crack form once supplies dwindled, we pushed even HARDER and then as a result people turned to meth. So we went from one addictive substance that was relatively harmless, to one that can be created out of fucking garbage, is effectively available everywhere, can't be regulated or controlled AT ALL, is an nth level biohazard and infinitely more addictive as well as exponentially more physically/psychologically destructive.

    It's the same deal with our financial system. Enacting more laws, harsher restrictions and the like doesn't solve the underlying problem of human GREED and when you attempt to squeeze or otherwise push that base level desire into a corner...yeah...it's gonna lash out and in some pretty epic/horrible ways.
     
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    How are vaccinations to be considered evolution? A vaccination is merely the entrance of a malicious bacteria/virus into one's system to create an antibody. If they were attempting to play with eugenics, wouldn't they be more interested in adapting these techniques to stem cell research? Also, who are "they" - since we are covering an international field, who governs this worldly body?

    According to the principals of free trade, which have not been practiced by any nation since the beginning of civilization, the market will regulate itself. Much the same way the drug cartels regulate themselves using extortion, political posturing, and LiveLeak beheading videos. The greed which exists by human nature will instead be subsided by legal threats, as opposed to our current system of bargaining for favors from governing entities. There are some amongst us who hold strong convictions that a free market is the only solution to curbing international monopolies, despite the lack of federal or international regulation giving them an open invitation to pretty much do whatever they want.
     
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    Economics is a fantasy. Math stems from measurement which is the synthesis of touch and sight. The number signs give us a direct representation of our mental process of relation. What this has to do with Economics is that from a purely scientific standpoint we have absolutely no clue what is actually going on.

    We would need to study in-depth every city on Earth, after of course we finally figure out how the brain works and how it develops culture and how that culture deals with commerce and then how that same brain operates as an individual within a group within a society when it buys a burger and fries (of all of this we know next to nothing except our own subjective experience), in order to get a grasp of how the unbelievably complex local commercial ecosystem works and how each economic purchase works (we know nothing of any of this nor do economists seem to think this is worth their time) then after we have that established we have to figure how how those economies relate to the larger economy (please keep in mind we have absolutely no evidence whatsoever that there is actually anything close to what we would consider or call an economy past the city level as the relationships between the systems may not be actually strong or distinct enough to be called as an ecosystem it's own right) can we begin to percieve the effects of "free trade" from a scientific standpoint.

    There is really only one policy we have in regards to the economy and that was laid out perfectly by a civil servant long ago:

    There's nothing more we can add to this at the moment.

    The one point on free trade I can offer is that everyone hates it until they can bargain from a position of strength.

    The only regulations I'm interested in is ensuring businesses actually do what they claim to. Few, if any, regulations actually regulate buisnesses in that almost all of the regulations in existance regulate consumers to make them easier to fleece. Things would run far more smoothly if corporations were forced to interact with their customers without a governmental crutch.

    How many of the wealthy assholes screaming "urban socialism" at tax increases to improve public transit would support the removal of the many tax breaks their businesses receive?

    You forget Mexico.


    No it's really not. People thought the same with ADHD but as it turns out parents are likely to be more strict in regards to their children, in fact a major problem with ADHD is that parents slowly become abusive as punishments escalate from a lack of long term efficacy. ADHD is a lack of capacity for long term conditioning meaning that short term reward/punishment is the only effective means of control. That's why in less severe cases individuals no longer display ADHD symptoms because they are able to manage them by acquiring a range of coping rituals and habits over the course of adolescence. With autistics, depending on what you got, it's all about understanding how to facilitate communication. Though I have a hard time believing that a healthy functioning adult should be able to purchase a fucking $300 pokemon bean bag chair and $50 in weekly green on the taxpayers dime.
     
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    Who knows how they are evolution? It is creating humans who can be considered as "specialists." Will this replicate in their offspring? And do these alter DNA? What about GMO viruses? These are questions what to be solved by these sort of people (see below), this research field is governed and regulated this field. There is no single society, or more appropriately, this research is done in a anarchic system.

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    No one cares about your opinions plebs.
     
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    No offense, but you're wrong.
    Vaccines on their own can cause seizures that damage brain tissue and result in learning disabilities. This correlation was seen during the 1990s especially, as Hepatitis B vaccines and others, as well as medications used to lower the fevers of children given said vaccines, showed this as a direct side effect. Many vaccines cause a slight raise in temperature that isn't harmful to an adult, yet can be dangerous to a child. The parents then give the children the medicine to lower their fever after a vaccine, they have a seizure, and they have brain damage. It's not a result of "piss-poor parenting". It isn't "autism" either; however, these children are seen as being in the autism spectrum. Anti-convulsants (to counteract the seizures) are also shown to have long-term effects, such as a significantly lowered IQ.

    It's still seen today. Even a vaccine for HPV can cause seizures resulting in frontal lobe damage.
    And it can happen to anybody.
     
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    Although there are some studies that suggest that vaccinations may lower IQ (and even that is debatable) , all correlation between them an actual autism have been debunked long ago by numerous studies, including 10 of the 13 scientists who first claimed there being a connection back in 1998 retracting their work.

    The Craze over the idea that they cause autism is being perpetuated by Jenny McCarthy and other celebrities who continue to insist it is true even in the face of actual doctors telling them they are wrong and dragging the unwashed masses along with them. But Jenny is so hot that I don't care.

    Also, here is an excerpt from the article you linked to (which, btw, is from 1996)-

    On the topic of Anti-convulsants, phenobarbital and autism-
    Some studies suggest that there is a correlation between some anti epilepsy and anti seizure medicine and autism. But others dispute it, saying that the seizures are a side effect of brain damage, not the cause nor the result of their treatment.

    In any case, I did not find any mention of Anti-convulsants being the cause for autism so you are pulling that out of your own ass.
    It seems you are just making your own logical connections without basis.
    Seizures-> brain damage -> autism-> I don't need sources-> everyone is wrong but me.

    What is even worse is the fact that is doesn't look like you were actually replying to the person you were talking to but using this as an excuse to talk about a tangentially related topic that you care about that has little to nothing to do with autism.

    So is short-
    Vaccinations have nothing to do with autism.
    Your comment has nothing to do with autism.
     
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    Learn to NLP before you go running your mouth on sensory trigger vocabulary.

    Who neutered you, anyway?
     
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    Basically, the jew is right. That debate is yet another false debate that only exists in 'murica.

    Besides even if they were causing autism, you bunch of fucking retards, would you rather die than being autistic?
    Oh well, actually you may have a point on this
     
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    I wouldn't say "puppet states", but the US does have some influance over these countries.
    The relation between Israel and the US is even more complicated than that. What is going on there is that the US gives Israel 3 billion dollars a year under the condition that they use 75% of that money to buy US made millitary goods. They have the same agreement with Egypt only they have to buy 100% and Israel also talked the US into selling them everything at insane discounts (we get m16's for 1$ each) because you know... Jews. We were not going to pay full price even for something we are getting for free. So actually you could say that Egypt should be on you list as well.

    The sad part is that this means America is buying weapons from themselves (or selling them to themselves) pretty much giving us (and a lot of other people) weapons that cost money to produce for free. Why are they doing it? To create false demand so that they don't have to lay off thousands of people or bail out their own weapons industry. I mean, it would be pretty humilliating if they had to admit their weapons industry is in the shitter and the only thing that keeps it afloat is selling to themselves by proxy.

    Another bonus they get out of this deal is that when they sell Israel weapons it's enemies and countries that look up to Israel's military want to buy the same crap. Now, they can't sell weapons to both us and the people shooting at us directly, so they sell it to third world countries they know later sell it to china who sells it to Iran who gives it to the rest of the arabs. Convaluted? Yes. But it pays the bills. The eithical question don't enter into it because the white man has no morals.

    The funny things is- The US is so devoted to retaining its political capital that it gives away insane amounts of money to people while it's own citizens are knee deep in a recession. They would let you all strave in the streets rather than step down from it's fake position as "world leader".

    So basically all these countries have a mutually benificial relationship with the US. They benifit from it more, but for the price of pretending to do what the americans say (we promise to stop building setelments past the green line every year but never actually do it lol) they all get billions of dollars a year. All of them could survive well without the US, but why bother? It's much more simple to continue to suckle at its teet. There are already voices here in Israel talking about just letting the americans keep their cash and telling them to fuck off. Our own weapons are just as good if not better if more costly. At times the US had to pressure us to stop prduction of weapons that are better than their own (the "Ari" jet for example).

    If people in america were smart (and they are not) they would demand they pull their support of all these coutries and use this money on themselves. But the americans are too fat and stupid to understand that.

    Calling them "puppet states" is a bit too dramatic... If you want to see a real puppet state relationship try Iran and lebanon...
    Or the United states and china in about 15 years.
     
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    This, too.

    The sad thing is that US citizens are too fucking stupid to be butthurt about it.
     
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    Who will be the puppet?
     
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    Courts in Italy ruled that vaccines can cause autism. Also doctors are fucking stupid. You'd be surprised how many think chemo is the only way to treat cancer.
     
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    "What is going on there is that the US gives Israel 3 billion dollars a year under the condition that they use 75% of that money to buy US made millitary goods."

    3 billion dollars and we get 75% of it back. 3 billion might seem like a lot to you considering your national GDP is equal to that of one of our cities, but allow me to put this in perspective for you.

    Things the US spends money on annually:
    25 billion per year maintaining vacant federal properties
    3 billion dollars re-sanding beaches
    2.5 billion in broadband internet for farm owners​

    Health care fraud alone costs taxpayers over 60 billion dollars per year annually.

    What you're implying is that Americans are "fat and stupid" for spending what is essentially peanuts on turning your country into our military outpost. What's most amusing is that your holy landmass is equal in size to Nevada yet has three times as many American military bases as that state does.

    "They would let you all strave in the streets rather than step down from it's fake position as "world leader".

    We have 900 military bases in 120 countries. I don't know what your definition of fake is but if it has something to do with Americans being "fat and stupid", keep crying.

    Also, nobody is starving in the streets. In fact, our welfare programs are out of control. I go to the grocery store and feel like a fucking chump because I'm the only person in line paying with cash instead of food stamps.

    "They benifit from it more, but for the price of pretending to do what the americans say (we promise to stop building setelments past the green line every year but never actually do it lol)"

    You think the US government actually cares about this stuff? If we gave a rat's ass about your petty border skirmishes we's lay the hammer down and your entire kike nation would be left whimpering with their beaks between their legs. We do it to put military installations in your country, to posture ourselves as the world military leaders, and essentially "post up" on foreign soil. Go ahead and blanketbomb a bunch of childfucking cavemen. Despite what the White House (powerless entity) says, the military does not give a fuck.

    " There are already voices here in Israel talking about just letting the americans keep their cash and telling them to fuck off."

    If you're talking about Arens he's been spouting that same song and dance for years and nobody is paying attention.

    "If people in america were smart (and they are not) they would demand they pull their support of all these coutries and use this money on themselves. But the americans are too fat and stupid to understand that."

    Meanwhile the rest of the world makes the USD the worldwide reserve currency, thereby allowing us to pay ourselves out of our own treasury by forcing you to buy our shit. It's either that or just flat out printing the cash and giving it away to 200 million taxpayers as some mysterious stimulus bonus. The former at least serves a purpose because it puts our Bald-Eagle dicks directly in your foreign affairs.

    "Calling them "puppet states" is a bit too dramatic... If you want to see a real puppet state relationship try Iran and lebanon...
    Or the United states and china in about 15 years."


    Nobody cares how a bunch of uncivilized sandniggers posture themselves on an international level. Look at Iran. They're fucking pathetic, DPRK of the middle east. Their only claim to relevancy is that they have the balls to stand up against the American juggernaut. I applaud them for that, if more countries followed that example instead of salivating over the minuscule amounts of cash we provide them I wouldn't have to play devil's advocate by defending imperialism to make a point.

    As for China, LOL. I'll spare you the details but I assure you of one thing: China has no intentions of invading, conquering, or expanding themselves anywhere. The only thing they give a fuck about is Taiwan, because the US stuck their dick in that land as well.
     
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    Yes, because a court said so it must be truth... fuck what people who actually study medicin say. Court rulings trump reality. Once a court rules something it MAKES IT the truth.
    Here is what actual doctors had to say about the case in italy-


    Well, I know one doctor who is a fucking idiot.
     
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    Welp, you are pretty much saying exactly what I am saying in other words.
    The US gives people a shit ton of money so that they can build bases on their land and posture themselves on an international level... Which is really the perfect word to use in this case.

    But at the end of the day when they tell countries to do shit they respond with: "Yeah, yeah... sure america. Now give us more money" and then keep doing whatever they feel like. Thee EU has more power than you... people actually listen to them (god knows why)

    Some puppet states.

    A few small corrections (not gonna bother to get back to all the parts you ignored... Let's both keep it short)

    1) You get bact 75$ of 3 billion in exchange for 10 times that worth in weapons. And that's just from Israel.
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    Hahahaha... You really know economy.
    3) China doesn't need to invade you. Soon they can just buy you.
     
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    Does his name begins with r and ends with ice


    What kind of profits are they gonna make from buying the most retarded nation on earth




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