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  1. Lurkerella

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    http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/Photoreferencing-to-make-the-difference-286581045

    So, he has been painting over pictures all the time, which explains why his paintings are inconsistent and sometimes the anatomy is shitty.

    My main problem here is not the fact that he is doing it. He is using stock picture and a lot of commercial illustrators always get aid from picture to work as fast as they can because of the pressure of the market upon them, yadda yadda.

    It’s the fact that he is doing it WITHOUT before learning to draw, and you can tell this is true in his own complete artworks: He doesn’t know shit about anatomy, all the parts that weren’t traced are wonky and a lot of times his character faces are weird. It like he has never ever drew anything from zero and never bothered to, for example, simply eyeball the references he is using or make drawing studies. All he learned was how to paint and colour.

    And here are pictures he did withotu reference: http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/Solar-Symphonies-165726555 http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/Economic-Crisis-173727358 http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/Ecume-tes-jours-159532459 They are a piece of shit.

    Lol buildings how they work: http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/Hold-Me-183537654

    Dat perspective and proportions: http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/Castaway-in-Stardust-City-31019753

    A lot of the pictures he admitted he used as reference also have watermarks of paid sites, so he is not only cheating but he is also stealing and defending himself under the "internet is for sharing", "I don't know this "tracing" concept" flag.

    I think we should try to contact the picture's owners, notify them and see what happens:

    http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/Coeurs-fondants-256904203
    http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/I-don-t-come-from-a-forest-193321990
    http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/It-will-come-off-with-soap-177905261

    The pictures which aren't watermarked he simply said "I found them in google", and he never redirects the site he found it from or the person who owns it, so it will be hard to locate.
     
  2. Shlomo Bernitz

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    So!
    DeviantART's response to Daniel Dociu is hard at work using inspiration-acquisition techniques that gave us breathtaking landscapes of Ctrl+Alt+Del? Huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu

    But how are we going to pull out his head that got lodged that far up his colon?
     
  3. Qwerty

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    shrug, I don't see what the big deal is.

    His finished stuff is way way way different from the initial photos he references, you might not like the finished result but that doesn't mean he's doing anything wrong. don't know why people get so hung up on people using photo refs that weren't omg 100% bought from stock photo sites; news flash NO ONE DOES THAT. in fact, this guy is one of the few artists i've seen actually own up to using refs extensively, most artists try and hide it because of drama wankers like you who think copying or even tracing one shitty pose or hand suddenly means that it's ~NOT REAL ART~ hurrrrrr derp who fucking cares

    i only give a shit when people like sionra manage to copy 900000 stock photo poses and still manage to completely suck ass

    so anyway can we get back to real dramz please yay like Dark-Spider http://dark-spider.deviantart.com aka Cris Ortega who paints over pieces from other people's actual ART http://fakeortega.blogspot.com/
     
  4. Lord Raptor

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    Hi AquaSixio :)
     
  5. Shlomo Bernitz

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    What an irrelevant bile you have spewed forth.
    If someone uses reference as a hard-wired base for his art, be it tracing or painting over, it should be expected that he:

    [A]- dedicates effort to find reference fully capable of expanding the concept in qestion;

    [ B] - works with references towards expanding his base workshop of both ideas and techniques.

    Aquasixio does neither, instead charges straight ahead to itroduce colour and texture heavy artwork to the appreciable public. Such equilibrium is VERY hard to abandon for the sake of developement. For someone with such potential, it is an obstacle mostly regrettable.
     
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    So, the BHB got on this http://fav.me/d4r4zn9 and now there is more people calling him on his bullshit and less people ass-kissing.

    The discussion is good and many people are making good points about the issue.
     
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    I think this is rather sad seeing as he is a REALLY good painter imo. One can't forgive him soley based on that but let's not forget that the tracing is actually only done over the first few steps.

    It's not okay, as he didn't be completely honest about it and didn't give out rescources. But as I said, his works aren't rushed, they don't rely on the tracing and it isn't a complete eyeball. Or something. I'm tired.
     
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    Even though the tracing step only takes 2 or 3 minutes of time in a 25+ hour peice, the fact his stuff painted 'without reference' proves to me that this person is not a painter. This person is only going to invest less than 5 minutes for the lineart. (leaves more time to play with color and apply effects) Worse, he was deliberately tracing over the pictures. He couldn't even be arsed to eyeball the form.

    This tracing step is the MOST IMPORTANT step in his tutorial, cause his 'unreferenced' pictures look like shit.

    If you can't even create the foundation or lines of your painting on your own then you're not a painter.

    He would make a fantastic colorist.
     
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    :derp: :derp: :derp:

    Valet/Ramy abuses references as a workshop base? Does anyone recall anything to back Aquasixio's thesis/fault-projecting? As much as Aqua enjoyed flashing his self-appointed martyrdom, he was quite content with Valet/Ramy being kicked out of Gaia's art arena.

    Aquasixio1.JPG
    ^How considerate.
     
  10. Lurkerella

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    I find funny how AquaSixio abuses the burn tool as much as Amuria does.

    Also, can't help but point out how disrespectful people is being to the photographers of the original pictures. If he was tracing over illustrations everyone would have already turned their backs on him, but not right now because clearly photography is not art. Photography is just there for us illustrators to Google and paint over them.
     
  11. Shlomo Bernitz

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    That would seemingly imply that he had too little to do with traditional art practice beforehand - or no guidance on how to recreate such practice in a digitalized enviroment from start. One of more tempting traps that a digital artist may succumb to is the issue of breaking work area into multiple disconnected local details that ultimately fail to deliver an overally consistent image - instead, forth comes a colourful artwork where every pebble and brick has every spot and speck of dust fully rendered, yet even basic properties of the entire setting have been avoided.

    And I am out of ideas on how I could suggest to him that it would benefit his workshop to embrace the big picture first without such a voice ending up discarded nonschalantly.
     
  12. Fermented

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    Quoted from BittersweetDisease's tumblog. I love her art and the way she is open about learning and helping others, but sometimes her attitude is just really "2muchArteest4U"
     
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    Except for the part where he said that he too is self taught and not to mention he took the image and traced on it for his figure. That is just...beyond stupid. It's not eyeballing the image, it's using someone's work and tracing over it because he doesn't know how to measure and draw the figure from observation.
     
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    If this is left unchecked, he can be the next Alexiuss. He keeps tracing and getting praises and stuff...til one day he'll actually be convinced that he has talent.

    You keep telling yourself a lie, and then at one point you actually believe your own lie.
     
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    Every popular/fetish artist ever
     
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    Lulz, the guy is a good painter. This shit wouldn't have happened if he just places in his comments that's he's tracing and not referencing. Damn shame though, damn good painter
     
  18. Synthia

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    It makes me wonder though if he samples his colour palette from images too, since he traces his figures. A few of his paintings (I even looked at my faves because I have one of his before this all happened) and it looked like he may have taken another artist's colour palette. It was the red kite/sunset ocean painting and I know a few artist who have done the sunset/ocean figure painting but the colours and composition just seemed fishy to me. So, I hope he does have talent but given that he's tracing figures, I kind of doubt he can paint well by himself.